“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
Ignorance is bliss I guess when you wish to convince yourself to believe something rather than reading history to get the facts.
France's Admiral de Grasse arrived in time to block a British fleet that was coming to rescue Lord Cornwallis from French and American land forces. On September 5, 1781, de Grasses's fleet moved out of Chesapeake Bay to face the attacking British ships. Realizing that the French blockade could not be broken, the British fleet sailed back to New York leaving Cornwallis' army with no choice but to surrender.
I guess that Lafayette Square being put right next to the Whitehouse honors General Lafayette and how little contribution he was for us.
As far as the French in Afghanistan not being much of a contribution...
The first deployed French force was composed of soldiers from the 21st Marine Infantry Regiment deployed on 17 November 2001, to Mazar-e Sharif. As of 17 September 2011, 75 French soldiers have died.
I'm sure that there are about 75 families that would really like to thank you for ****ting on their departed loved ones who simply went to fight on behalf of the United States. "A few nails and a pitcher of lemonade" indeed. Stay classy sport.
And it's great that the French "arrived in time" for the Revolutionary War. If only we deployed for France in the same manner. We would have just a few deaths over the course of the 20th century as well.
Like I said, throwing a parade for the guy that brings a nail to the construction site only offers him legitimacy in his deceit.
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In explaining, there is a hint of justification. And no, supporting dictators really didn't save democracy around the world. The red threat was never the type of threat that would do away with democracy. It would help if we believed in democracy as much as we say do, having soem faith that it will endure and win the day.
At the end of the day, Afghanistan may take back the Taliban. We'll see, but I also didn;t say we trying to put stars on the flag. I said remaking them in our immage. There was a lot of talk about that early on, but as the expense grw, and the reality set in, what we'd accept became less.
And frankly, no where have I asked for a perfect world. I've asked that we not be aggressors. That we act within some core value. Not that is no room to work within the realities, but that we don't prop up dictators and oppression. And that we don't think we know best and can enforce our will on others. If you believe in our democracy, believe it will be something others want, and that time will more and more that way. Stop aggression as we did in the first guylf war, but don't invade and nation build recklessly. There are more choices than you're allowing for.
AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.
About the French. Yes, they are a petulent lot. Of late not very dependable, if you ever do business with or through France. I do. They are hard to depend on without also having a plan for if they have a labor hissy fit. They are inefficiant as hell. And have more pompous jackasses per capita than anyone.
However. The French were an enormous help in our Revolutionary War. Not just with their fleet, but also boots-on-the-ground. As to their courage and commitment, and losses, in military campaigns, their losses in WWI were staggering. Beyond anything America can possibly relate to in any war. They are also a country eternally fouled by bad politics, and as in both WW's, bad officers.
While they have certainly stood tall in the past, at this point in their history, they are shifting to being a bit noodle-spined. They are about to vote back in a socialist, and become whining liberals once again, expecting the gubmit teat to not run dry. Friggin Germans are going to dis-own them again.
Perhaps CIA blackops does 'more' other than them, likely not too many people do much more. X18 trains local military... that's also good too.And they did very little in Afghanistan today.
...RAAAH ZIIIEG!!!!! lmao relaxEnglish speaking nations are or true allies.
The rest merely want a seat at the table and they will send troops to hide behind walls to prove it.Perhaps canada should ask some questions as to who goofed them in nato.Add up the casualties of all other countries in the NATO coalition in Afghanistan and they don't add up to what Canada has lost.
Flies and vinegar... I'm sure it'd be a dandy time in Afghanistan alone... perhaps be polite when allies decide to help in a strategically ambiguous war.Next in line is the U.K. and then, of course, the U.S. You don't spend all day in the sun building a shed with your own tools and give grand thanks to the neighbor who shows up with a few nails and a pitcher of lemonade to support you.
You wanna know what I wanna be when I grow up.. a CIA torture training consultant... so many little people governments to train.As far as this grand show of morality to defend the little guys, one month prior to insisting that America do something with them in Libya, France offerred complete support to the dictator in Tunisia.