And I did not say absence. Let me repeat what I said: "First history on not clear on your claim (freedom lessens terrorism). Terrorism has been prevenlent everywhere regardless of political system." They are not stagnet because of terrorism. And freedom will not prevent them from hating the foreign devil, in fact or efforts re-enforce that we are the devil they claim we are.Once again, we aren't talking about the absence of terrorism. We are talking about mass organized groups, their exportation, and society's stagnation because of terrorism. McVeigh does not equal Al-Queda or the countless other organizations that thrive in the Middle East because its social environment encourages a never ending recruitment pool willing to hate a foreign devil. The freedom to express and to elect true representation greatly reduces the man's capacity to organize and be heard through other means. This is 101 stuff.
BTW, McVey was not alone. He belonged to a group. The KKK is not alone, but a group. And when these groups feel their view of the world uis threatened, they act violently. We've seen it ebfore, and we'll see it again. Freeedom has not lessened it. Not here. Not in Brittian. Not really anywhere. The premise you present is flawed fundamentally. There is no evidence that freedom or lack of freedom plays much of a role at all in terrorism.
Perhaps we are. Likely they were doing both as well. But one works against the other. The public, big show, works to keep enough angry that you lose the advantage. Where is you keep it behind the scenes, there is less clutter, less public outcry, and more ability to get cooperation. Sometimes working smarter is better than working reckless.I'm sure we are doing all of that as well. Iraq and Afghanistan were just our local involvements for expressed reasons. This entire regions knows that in order to be prosperos they have to join the world, which means dealing with America and allies. China is fine dealing with the dictators. We have proven that we want that behavior behind us. You think the Muslim Brotherhood will refuse to do business with the powers of the world and not give their people what they promised?
yes, we ahd the fever. Just as a mob does when they want to lynch someone, too often the wrong someone. But should we cater to that mentality, or do bring reason to the table? And wouldn't it have been better to have him and not be on snipe hunts all over the place? I think we get better from people when we expect better, don't you?This would hardly satisfy the American thirst for revenge, which is what all of America wanted.
Fact is Japan did attack our soil. That is defense when you strike back. Afghanistan, and Iraq even more so, did nothing remotely like that.Japan attacked Hawaii almost a year prior to Guadacanal. They were done with out soil.
Germany declaring war on us had nothing to do with our soil. Castro had also declared war on us during the Cold War.
It's our presence around the globe that offers protections to all regions where we conduct business. If we simply vacated these positions, nations like South Korea, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, etc. would be a mess of violence and upheaval...and so would our business ties.
And when a nation declares war on you, espeically then, there is a reasonable expectation they will attack you. So it too is a different situation, and one that fits every just war situation. Castro, the result of interfering in Cuba to start with, declared no real war. And unlike Germany, had no real army. But a wise president both delt with the real threat there and didn't recklessly lead us into a mess.
But we can work on history in the proper forum.
As for around the world, being in South Korea is not equal to onvading North Korea. Working with allies is not equal to invading other countries. Hell, even Israel told a couople of years ago to claim down concering Iran (I won't look it up again tonight). We have to make a distinction between supporting allies and invading countries. VN is better today, more workable with us, than it was when we fought them. We were unable, and pick your reason, to make them a democracy. But, they trade with us fine now. If we look close at history, we actually could have had the relationship we have now, if not even better, minus all the death and destruction. VN is a perfect example of what being to ready to go to war for less than valid reasons leads us to. We have to use better judgment.