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    Marines discharge Sergeant for Facebook posts criticizing President Barack Obama

    SAN DIEGO (AP) — The Marine Corps said Wednesday it has decided to discharge a sergeant for criticizing President Barack Obama on Facebook. The Corps said Sgt. Gary Stein will be given an other-than-honorable discharge for violating Pentagon policy limiting speech of service members. The San Diego-area Marine has served nearly 10 years in the Marine Corps. He has said he was exercising his free-speech rights.

    The discharge will mean he loses all benefits. A federal judge previously denied a request to block military discharge proceedings against Stein, who called Obama an enemy on Facebook.
    Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts - Yahoo! News

    What are your thoughts on this?

    Do you think they went too far in punishment?
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    Re: Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts for criticizing President Barack Ob

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts - Yahoo! News

    What are your thoughts on this?

    Do you think they went too far in punishment?
    That's ****ed up. They should have NJP'ed his ass and let it go.
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    Re: Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts for criticizing President Barack Ob

    Anyone stupid enough to publicly badmouth his boss around the world, and not expect repercussions deserves firing.
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    Re: Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts for criticizing President Barack Ob

    I do not agree with it. Freedom of speech. If he was disobeying orders that would be one thing, but I dont know that to be the case.
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    Re: Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts for criticizing President Barack Ob

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I do not agree with it. Freedom of speech. If he was disobeying orders that would be one thing, but I dont know that to be the case.
    I stand corrected.

    The judge pointed out Stein's March 1 comments on a Facebook page used by Marine Corps meteorologists in which the sergeant stated, "Screw Obama and I will not follow all orders from him."
    Seems like he should have been punished. Firing may be extreme.
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    Re: Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts for criticizing President Barack Ob

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Anyone stupid enough to publicly badmouth his boss around the world, and not expect repercussions deserves firing.
    That's pretty much how I'm seeing it.

    Firing seems a bit extreme, but insubordination is never met kindly. The guy is an idiot for putting that on facebook-- just another one on the long list.
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    Re: Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts for criticizing President Barack Ob

    "I will not follow orders" is what done it.

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    Re: Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts for criticizing President Barack Ob

    he insulted the Commander-in-Chief and threatened to disobey any orders originating from him.

    asshole made his bed...and now he shall rest in it.

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    Re: Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts for criticizing President Barack Ob

    This is fine as at the end of the day the Marine violated "Pentagon policy limiting speech of service members," this is especially true when you read that he "called Obama an enemy on Facebook" as well as "Screw Obama and I will not follow all orders from him."
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    Re: Marines discharge Sergeant for Facebook posts criticizing President Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Marines discharge sergeant for Facebook posts - Yahoo! News

    What are your thoughts on this?

    Do you think they went too far in punishment?
    Any man who bad mouth's his boss, and basically implies that other employees should not obey their boss should be fired.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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