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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we don't know how wrong Zimmerman was

    1) bad judgment

    2) bad tactics

    3) racist hatred

    4) desire to kill

    all could be possible

    none could be

    hard to say without more evidence
    Agreed. That is why I was careful to use words like "perceived" and "believed".

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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Anniegetyourgun View Post
    this happened not too far from my town and I didn't hear a thing about it

    Alton Hayes III | Suspect: I Beat Up White Man Because I Am Mad About Trayvon Martin Case

    It scares me to think about what will happen if Zimmerman is found not guilty.
    well when OJ got acquitted the whites and Jewish folks didn't riot. when the cops who beat Rodney King walked on state charges, blacks went bonkers.

    when a hispanic cop shot a black boy on a motorbike in Miami years ago blacks rioted but they stopped from rioting into the Cuban areas (a retired Deputy Marshall I know was involved in that law enforcement effort-he said the Cuban neighborhoods had more firepower than Fort Knox)

    so you are correct, it could get ugly-when a White Cop in Cincinnati shot a black 18 year old youth with 14 minor warrants, blacks rioted and when the cops backed off patrolling black areas we got 103 or so murders over the next 14 months-all black on black
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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Anniegetyourgun View Post
    this happened not too far from my town and I didn't hear a thing about it

    Alton Hayes III | Suspect: I Beat Up White Man Because I Am Mad About Trayvon Martin Case

    It scares me to think about what will happen if Zimmerman is found not guilty.
    There is no way Zimmerman walks away from this. If this case doesn't convict, AG Holder will go after him for Civil Rights violations. It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not. The Justice Department won't quit until he's in prison or Holder is replaced by a new president.

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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Don't have the numbers but blacks tend to kill blacks, whites tend to kill whites but blacks kill far more whites than vice versa

    some of that is purely economics-people tend to rob places with money like stores which tend to have white owners


    if you really want a shock google black rape of white women vs white rape of black women

    one year it was like well over 1000 cases of blacks raping whites and less than 60 cases of the reverse. some have noted that reporting issues may skew the numbers though (example, that woman who screamed rape about Kobe Bryant-I honestly believe it was consensual and when her father found out she changed her story)
    Black-on-white killings grew from 8,503 to 8,530, while white-on-black slayings dropped from 4,745 to 4,380. Homicides involving all other racial combinations, including Asians and American Indians, rose from 3,854 to 4,981.

    Considering percentages of population per racial group...its a pretty blatant and disgusting set of numbers.

    Trayvon Martin, Oklahoma killings reflect homicide shift | ScrippsNews

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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    How's that hopey changey thing comin along, Obamaniacs? Are you still throwing back the Kool Aid or is that little world you've been living in starting to heal?

    Generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth.

    This was the moment—this was the time—when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals.

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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    I think it sucks that this happened, but I think it is also dishonest to compare this to cases where people initially weren't even going to be tried with anything. If the cops said, you know "Hillbilly right to defend your asshole kids clause" came into play, only to step back from it after realizing how badly they screwed up that would be one thing but it isn't. People are going to jail for this and no one questions if they should go to jail or not.

    This is the key difference. See, for whatever reason you guys have this fascination with trying to make people that don't agree with your POV to seem backwards racist or something. If you were going to say, give me a thread where a black guy shot a white kid because he thought the white kid was up to no good and there is a chance he could walk, then I would be pissed. It seriously would aggravate me. This Treyvon martin thing to me what is more concerning is the law. I really don't give a **** either way about Zimmerman.

    You find me some black on white crime where the guy gets away with it and then talk. Otherwise, stop it.
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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I think it sucks that this happened, but I think it is also dishonest to compare this to cases where people initially weren't even going to be tried with anything. If the cops said, you know "Hillbilly right to defend your asshole kids clause" came into play, only to step back from it after realizing how badly they screwed up that would be one thing but it isn't. People are going to jail for this and no one questions if they should go to jail or not.

    This is the key difference. See, for whatever reason you guys have this fascination with trying to make people that don't agree with your POV to seem backwards racist or something. If you were going to say, give me a thread where a black guy shot a white kid because he thought the white kid was up to no good and there is a chance he could walk, then I would be pissed. It seriously would aggravate me. This Treyvon martin thing to me what is more concerning is the law. I really don't give a **** either way about Zimmerman.

    You find me some black on white crime where the guy gets away with it and then talk. Otherwise, stop it.
    Yep, the problem in "call out" threads like these is that the crimes don't bear the key resemblance to the Martin case: the poor investigation that ended in no charges being filed. Cases where arrests are expected and comments like "X number of black on black crimes" happened last year where we know nothing about the cases don't have the key part that has sparked so much anger and frustration surrounding the Martin case.

    Threads like these are just huge billboards saying, "I've missed the point."

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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Actually, you politicized it when you mentioned Eric Holder and tried to call out other posters for not doing something that they hadn't even had the chance to do. If you're going to politicize something, at least own it. Personal responsibility, isn't it?
    It's auto-politicized by the simple fact that it was a mob, not a gang, a mob.

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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the cops believed it was self defense

    pretty hard for the pack of thugs to claim that

    I wasn't arrested when I shot someone, i was questioned after waiving my rights for 2 hours

    then a cop gave me a ride home

    why

    1) I called the police

    2) I told them where I was

    3) I gave them my name

    4) three witnesses I didn't see confirmed what I told the cops

    5) the one mugger who wasn't shot lied and then in lockup told another inmate that he and his buddy had tried to mug someone

    so what I said checked out and the cops knew I was telling the truth

    sure a couple left-wingers whined that the two muggers were arrested and I was not

    they were idiots




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    Re: Man Beaten By Mob, Arrests Expected Today

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Yep, the problem in "call out" threads like these is that the crimes don't bear the key resemblance to the Martin case: the poor investigation that ended in no charges being filed. Cases where arrests are expected and comments like "X number of black on black crimes" happened last year where we know nothing about the cases don't have the key part that has sparked so much anger and frustration surrounding the Martin case.

    Threads like these are just huge billboards saying, "I've missed the point."
    This thread was started (I believe, correct op if I'm wrong) not to compare to the Trayvon case but to show the outcome of all the race baiting. The crimes in my post and the op was caused by people upset with the case. So I think you've missed the point.

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