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    Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if it’s upheld by court - The Washington Post

    Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    enate Democrats are making plans to force a floor vote on legislation that would invalidate Arizonaís controversial immigration statute if the Supreme Court upholds the law this summer.Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) will announce the fallback legislation at a hearing on the Arizona law Tuesday, a day before the Supreme Court hears oral arguments in a suit to determine whether Arizona had the authority to enact the 2010 state crackdown.



    So let me get this straight, the Supreme court if it says it's good, chuck the **** schumer wants a vote to try again to outlaw, the immigration law? Is this vote pandering or what?
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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Ok, what is this guy thinking?

    If the law is upheld, then the Supreme court says that states have the right to enact such legistlation, thus any Federal legislation would face a judicial challange because it was enacted to take away a right of a state with a probabl outcome of the Federal Government not being allowed to limit a states rights. Further, how does he even think it is worth spending time on? Clearly such legislation would fail to pass the house making it a complete waste of time that could be spent on other things, say like actually strengthing our border protection.

    The only thing that makes sense to me is that he is pandering to the latino and other votes while not up for re-election inorder to avoid acussations of pandering to a particular electoriate by his fello NY Senator, who is up for re-election. She then gets to take on any positives from it and avoids any negatives.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    I'm sure he would raise holy hell if the GOP would propose voting on its validity if the Supreme Court strikes it down.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Good for them. Republicans don't like the Supreme Court anyways. May as well propose a vote and get the entire Senate on record about legislation targeting Hispanics. If Republicans lose whatever they have left of the Hispanic vote, I'm alright with that.
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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Ok, what is this guy thinking?

    If the law is upheld, then the Supreme court says that states have the right to enact such legistlation, thus any Federal legislation would face a judicial challange because it was enacted to take away a right of a state with a probabl outcome of the Federal Government not being allowed to limit a states rights.
    Not necessarily. The Court could rule that the the AZ law isn't facially preempted by existing federal law without saying that states can conduct their own immigration policy regardless. In that case Congress could pass a law expressly preempting the states from enforcing these sorts of laws.

    On a side note: For first time since Depression, more Mexicans leave U.S. than enter - The Washington Post
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Good for them. Republicans don't like the Supreme Court anyways. May as well propose a vote and get the entire Senate on record about legislation targeting Hispanics. If Republicans lose whatever they have left of the Hispanic vote, I'm alright with that.


    Right, **** the supreme court i we can trick hispanics....
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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not necessarily. The Court could rule that the the AZ law isn't facially preempted by existing federal law without saying that states can conduct their own immigration policy regardless. In that case Congress could pass a law expressly preempting the states from enforcing these sorts of laws.

    On a side note: For first time since Depression, more Mexicans leave U.S. than enter - The Washington Post
    No indication on a % that left were here illegally to begin with nor what % came during the same period illegally, so I'm not sure of the relevance. The immigration debate is about illegal immigration, not Mexicans. And yes, I can say that with a straight face.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Honestly it is a pretty good move. You either force the GOP, during an election year, to take a stand that is unpopular with the Latino group knowing that the bill won't pass.
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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    No indication on a % that left were here illegally to begin with nor what % came during the same period illegally, so I'm not sure of the relevance. The immigration debate is about illegal immigration, not Mexicans. And yes, I can say that with a straight face.
    A little common sense can go a long way.

    The reversal appears to be a result of tightened border controls, a weak U.S. job and housing construction market, a rise in deportations and a decline in Mexican birthrates, said the study, which used U.S. and Mexican census figures and Mexican government surveys. Arrests of illegal immigrants trying to enter the United States have also dropped precipitously in recent years.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Good for them. Republicans don't like the Supreme Court anyways. May as well propose a vote and get the entire Senate on record about legislation targeting Hispanics. If Republicans lose whatever they have left of the Hispanic vote, I'm alright with that.
    That would mean that all Hispanics are illegal aliens and want to get on welfare.
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