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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Who said the republicans don't like the Supreme Court? From what I have seen, they very much liked it when that court started shooting down unconstitutional gun laws.
    So your diatribe aside, Republicans don't like the Court when issues they care about are voted against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Moot point.

    Scotus will toss this one in the crapper where it belongs.


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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Not necessarily. The Court could rule that the the AZ law isn't facially preempted by existing federal law without saying that states can conduct their own immigration policy regardless. In that case Congress could pass a law expressly preempting the states from enforcing these sorts of laws.

    On a side note: For first time since Depression, more Mexicans leave U.S. than enter - The Washington Post
    False. The state is duplicating the statutes in the fed law and then giving its own agents the ability to enforce it because the fed will not--neither enforce on their own nor empower Arizona law enforcement to be able to enforce the federal laws.

    If this law is struck down you can expect the states to file suit along the lines of non eforcement and sue for damages related to illegal aliens because they were blocked from enforcing the statutes that were the same as the fed law. The fed has abdicated its duty and is acting in bad faith on enforcement, especially at the local levels.

    The fed will be forced to stop playing both sides against each other and act to enforce the laws on the books more strenuously.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So your diatribe aside, Republicans don't like the Court when issues they care about are voted against.
    Maybe you missed it but liberals around the country are still pretty pissed about Citizens v United. It aint limited to conservatives. Everyone does it, liberals act a bit more: "Im so outrageously outraged that Im outraged by this outrageouos decision, its outrageous."

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Maybe you missed it but liberals around the country are still pretty pissed about Citizens v United. It aint limited to conservatives. Everyone does it, liberals act a bit more: "Im so outrageously outraged that Im outraged by this outrageouos decision, its outrageous."
    The most amusing thing will be if the Supreme Court either finds this law unconstitional or consititional and then Obamacare consitional or unconsititonal. We would then see people bitch about how the court ruled in one direction and it is to liberal/conservative and a different way in another case and how great the Supreme Court is.
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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Maybe you missed it but liberals around the country are still pretty pissed about Citizens v United. It aint limited to conservatives. Everyone does it, liberals act a bit more: "Im so outrageously outraged that Im outraged by this outrageouos decision, its outrageous."
    Puhlease. Conservatives have been whining about "activist" judges and courts for 80 years.
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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Maybe you missed it but liberals around the country are still pretty pissed about Citizens v United. It aint limited to conservatives. Everyone does it, liberals act a bit more: "Im so outrageously outraged that Im outraged by this outrageouos decision, its outrageous."
    Maybe you missed it, but it isn't just liberals. In fact, more Americans believe in witchcraft than believe Citizens United was a good decision.

    The poll reveals that nearly 70 percent of Americans believe Super PAC spending will lead to corruption and that three in four Americans believe limiting how much corporations, unions, and individuals can donate to Super PACs would curb corruption. Of those who expressed an opinion, more than 80 percent believe that, compared with past elections, the money being spent by political groups this year is more likely to lead to corruption.

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    73% of respondents agreed that “there would be less corruption if there were limits on how much could be given to Super PACs.” Only 14% disagreed. Here, 75% of Republicans and 78% of Democrats agreed.

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    Two in three Americans — 65% — say that they trust government less because big donors to Super PACs have more influence than regular voters. Republicans (67%) and Democrats (69%) uniformly agree.

    National Survey: Super PACs, Corruption, and Democracy | Brennan Center for Justice
    Recall that in reaching its decision, "the majority did not believe that reliable evidence substantiated the risk of corruption or the appearance of corruption, and so this rationale did not satisfy strict scrutiny."

    Oops.
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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    We oppose government run health care, not health care.....
    you're against Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA?

    that's pretty ****y for old folks, poor folks, and Veterans.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you're against Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA?

    that's pretty ****y for old folks, poor folks, and Veterans.
    My mistake... We oppose OBAMACARE.

    Better?

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So let me get this straight, the Supreme court if it says it's good, chuck the **** schumer wants a vote to try again to outlaw, the immigration law? Is this vote pandering or what? [/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]
    um..this is called "Politics as Usual".

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