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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    And the Republicans oppose healthcare laws, and consumer protection laws, and stimulus package laws. What is your point?

    And SB1070 in no way PREVENTS illegal immigration.
    No. Republicans oppose endless stupidity and government largesse. Democrats embrace such.

    Now, can you explain ? Or are you just as dumbfounded, and possibly even pissed-off, as the rest of us ?

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    No. Republicans oppose endless stupidity and government largesse. Democrats embrace such.

    Now, can you explain ? Or are you just as dumbfounded, and possibly even pissed-off, as the rest of us ?
    I think SB1070 is a dumb law but I don't blame Arizona for wanting to do something about illegal immigration
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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think SB1070 is a dumb law but I don't blame Arizona for wanting to do something about illegal immigration
    But the thread is about jackasses such as Shumer hoping to make an idiotic political statement in complete ignorance of both SCOTUS and basic state's rights.

    In proper context, there are no "dumb" laws when states try to protect themselves, especially where the Federal Government has absconded its responsibility. Just steps towards solving real problems.

    Shumer and his fellow Democrats are crap smears on the Republic.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Doesn't anybody realize an erection ( I mean election ) is just around the corner and this is all about the Hispanic vote. It doesn't really matter what the SCOTUS says. Republicans do stuff like this as well.


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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Doesn't anybody realize an erection ( I mean election ) is just around the corner and this is all about the Hispanic vote. It doesn't really matter what the SCOTUS says. Republicans do stuff like this as well.
    Sorry, but no cigar. Republicans have their dumb political moments .............. but not that dumb.

    "Obama 2012" is an indicator of the dumbess amongess, btw. Such folks need an "L" on their foreheads ..... IMMHO of course.
    Last edited by Eighty Deuce; 04-24-12 at 09:53 PM.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I'm sure he would raise holy hell if the GOP would propose voting on its validity if the Supreme Court strikes it down.

    Queue the Hypocrisy Wars theme in 3...2....1.....
    I wish people would stop voting. With every vote you dig yourself deeper.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So let me get this straight, the Supreme court if it says it's good, chuck the **** schumer wants a vote to try again to outlaw, the immigration law? Is this vote pandering or what? [/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]
    Moot point.

    Scotus will toss this one in the crapper where it belongs.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    And the Republicans oppose healthcare laws, and consumer protection laws, and stimulus package laws.
    We oppose government run health care, not health care.... What CP laws.... And yes, we oppose wasteful, useless government spending.


    What is your point?
    My point is rather clear... It's against the law to enter, live and work in this country without going through INS and aquiring permission to do so. Democrats oppose efforts to both prevent and enforce those laws... Just as they oppose efforts to prevent voter fraud and protect the integrity of the American electoral system.

    What you listed, are policy differences, not disrespect for the rule of law and enabling election fraud.



    And SB1070 in no way PREVENTS illegal immigration.
    Excuse me... SB1070 helps to catch illegal aliens by allowing police to ask for proof of citizenship on traffic stops.

    Like you didn't know what I meant.

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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Sorry, but no cigar. Republicans have their dumb political moments .............. but not that dumb.

    "Obama 2012" is an indicator of the dumbess amongess, btw. Such folks need an "L" on their foreheads ..... IMMHO of course.
    What an astute political analysis.


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    Re: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itís upheld by court

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Moot point.

    Scotus will toss this one in the crapper where it belongs.
    I suspect you are correct, it not up the state to decide anything on immigration, its the Federal Government that is in charge. I suspect the swing vote (Kennedy) will be on the liberal side on this issue.


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