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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    90 days in prison and holding a 8 hours a day for four days for getting drunk and willfully getting in a car and running someone over is not justice. Its a slap on a wrist,especially considering the fact this is not his first time getting caught driving drunk.
    Well he got drunk and willfullyt got in the car, but I doubt he willfully ran someone over.
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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Not trying to be edgy or sarcastic here. Do you think that guy is holding the sign and:

    A) Frowning because of the shame and public embarrassment he feels, or

    B) Smiling because he accidentally killed someone and he is getting away with a slap on the wrist for it.
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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well he got drunk and willfullyt got in the car, but I doubt he willfully ran someone over.
    If a person does not know that getting into a car drunk can do such a thing, then they should not have a license to start with.
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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    If a person does not know that getting into a car drunk can do such a thing, then they should not have a license to start with.
    I would say the same for a wide array of things, not just drinking and driving. However, drinking and driving does not make intent to do personal harm.
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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Personally, I'd like to see anyone who caused a major accident while DWI ought to have their car painted so it glows in the dark. At least we could all see 'em comin'.

    I agree with you. The guy should've been in jail for five years. At least he'd'a come out sober.
    Well, I'm sure this guy doesn't have a license to drive right now, but prolly will some day again. I always thought they should have plates for DUI convictions for a period of time...front and rear, something to identify them on the road. You want your license back, here's your plate.
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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Not trying to be edgy or sarcastic here. Do you think that guy is holding the sign and:

    A) Frowning because of the shame and public embarrassment he feels, or

    B) Smiling because he accidentally killed someone and he is getting away with a slap on the wrist for it.
    I'm sure he can't wait for it to be over with so 'he can get on with his life' as all criminals who are merely slapped on the wrist do.

    The bigger question is "will he stop drinking now that he's been given a get out of jail free card?" - I doubt it: if anything - his tendency to drown his sorrows in a bottle will surface more so and he'll drink to cope.

    Hmm - if we take away licenses *to drive* - why can't we just take away a license *to drink?* Seriously: why don't we require all forms of ID to clarify whether someone can buy or be served alcohol? If they still manage to get liquor (as is likely to be done very easily) - and then are involved in a drinking-related crime thereafter: the person supplying the booze will also be penalized . . . something like that?
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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well he got drunk and willfullyt got in the car, but I doubt he willfully ran someone over.
    Yeah, he was drunk and operating a deadly weapon while impaired...no big deal. [sarcasm on]
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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Yeah, he was drunk and operating a deadly weapon while impaired...no big deal. [sarcasm on]
    Should someone texting and driving have the same level of punishments? Sleepy driving? Talking on the cell phone? What about the other various forms of distracted driving? Should they all carry similar punishment, or are we just singling out drinking and driving because we think it's so much worse than other forms of distracted driving?

    Facts about Distracted Driving:
    ■Distracted driving is the number one killer of American teens. Alcohol-related accidents among teens have dropped. But teenage traffic fatalities have remained unchanged, because distracted driving is on the rise. (Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and State Farm Insurance Study and NHTSA Study)
    ■While over 90% of teen drivers say they don't drink and drive, nine out of 10 say they've seen passengers distracting the driver, or drivers using cell phones. (National Teen Driver Survey)
    ■Brain power used while driving decreases by 40% when a driver listens to conversation or music. (Center for Cognitive Brain Imaging at Carnegie Mellon University Study)
    ■More than 80% of drivers admit to blatantly hazardous behavior: changing clothes, steering with a foot, painting nails and shaving. (Nationwide Mutual Insurance Survey)
    ■Drivers on mobile phones are more impaired than drivers at .08 BAC. (University of Utah Study)
    ■An estimated million people each day chat on their mobile or send text messages while driving. (The Herald)
    ■41 percent of drivers admitted they had “fallen asleep or nodded off” while driving at least once, 11 percent said they had done so within the past year, and four percent said they had fallen asleep behind the wheel in the previous month. (AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety Survey)
    ■Drowsy driving causes an estimated 1,550 deaths a year and 40,000 injuries. (CDC Report)

    http://negligentdriving.com/distracted.cfm
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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Should someone texting and driving have the same level of punishments? Sleepy driving? Talking on the cell phone? What about the other various forms of distracted driving? Should they all carry similar punishment, or are we just singling out drinking and driving because we think it's so much worse than other forms of distracted driving?
    I'm not sure what kind of point you're making here. If somebody, while in the operation of a vehicle, behaves carelessly, and if that careless behavior leads to the death of another, they should be charged with negligent homicide at minimum (intent dependent). A vehicle has been determined in the court of law to qualify as a deadly weapon. If one utilizes it to that end, whether intentionally or through willfull carelessness, they should receive consistent, heavy punishment.

    Somebody who is also violating the law in combination with that carlessness should face further charges for the laws violated. If texting or utilizing a cellphone is illegal in that area then charges should be applied. Driving under the influence of alcohol is illegal pretty much everywhere, with the only variation being at what point the legal limit for BAC is exceeded. So there should be charges for that.

    When the negligence of one leads to the death of another it should be taken very, very seriously. 90 days in jail and 4 days holding a sign proclaiming their crime is hardly a serious application of justice when the crime is the death of another.
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    Re: Drunk Driver Made to Wear Sign Saying He Killed a Man

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm not sure what kind of point you're making here.
    The point is quite clear. When discussing drunk driving, people are often times willing to state punishment above and beyond that which would be handed out for the same dynamics such as drowsey sleeping. If the guy nodded off at the wheel and killed a dude instead, would people still be upset about the 90 days behind bars or would they be more willing to lend forgiveness in that situation? I would agree that all similar dynamics such as distracted driving in general, should come with similar punishments. This guy may be at the tail end of the punishment distribution, but if it were something other than drunk driving, would there be quite this much outrage?
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