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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Bush wanted the embeds, his Administration thought getting the media on board with the troops would slant the reporting in favor of the war. It turned skeptics into cheerleaders. It was pretty successful during the drive in, fell apart after pictures of Marines killing wounded insurgents at point blank range. But it did help sell the invasion.

    Insulting is a bit different and did Wanda Sykes then perform at a CONUS Base?

    Now I can't find where the Dixie Chicks were offered and then turned down an invite to go over seas for the troops, got a link to that?

    I found where the Red Cross refused a 1 million dollar partnership with the Chicks.

    The Chicks refused to join the Red Cross Cabinet twice AFTER but not our troops. They did after Katrina donate to the Red Cross.

    But I miss where the Chicks refused to perform for our troops...

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Probably wouldn't be a big deal except for the fact that the violent rhetoric was aimed at Commander in Chief himself.
    That's exactly what it's about. Not only was it aimed at the CIC, but more specifically, aimed at Obama and we all know how thin skinned he is.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's exactly what it's about. Not only was it aimed at the CIC, but more specifically, aimed at Obama and we all know how thin skinned he is.
    The hell makes you think Obama ordered this himself?
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not the Army's money. It's the troops's money. They're the ones funding the concert, by purchasing tickets.

    That's how concerts work, ya know?
    Where is the concert being held and who owns the property?
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Bush wanted the embeds, his Administration thought getting the media on board with the troops would slant the reporting in favor of the war. It turned skeptics into cheerleaders. It was pretty successful during the drive in, fell apart after pictures of Marines killing wounded insurgents at point blank range. But it did help sell the invasion.

    Insulting is a bit different and did Wanda Sykes then perform at a CONUS Base?

    Now I can't find where the Dixie Chicks were offered and then turned down an invite to go over seas for the troops, got a link to that?

    I found where the Red Cross refused a 1 million dollar partnership with the Chicks.

    The Chicks refused to join the Red Cross Cabinet twice AFTER but not our troops. They did after Katrina donate to the Red Cross.

    But I miss where the Chicks refused to perform for our troops...
    The USO is open to anyone who choses to join them. Anyone that doesn't join a USO tour, does so by choice. The Chicks were a part of a USO tour in 2003 and that was the last one. Maybe they were too busy working with Moveon.org.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's exactly what it's about. Not only was it aimed at the CIC, but more specifically, aimed at Obama and we all know how thin skinned he is.

    your missing the point, the military are gov funded and can not be seen taking sides in political debate. It would be highly inappropriate for the military to host Nugent after his comments, I would expect the same if it was a comment directed at a conservative Rep.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Where is the concert being held and who owns the property?
    Last time I checked, the American People own that property.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Ted has always been very vocal and honest regarding his political opinions. I saw him open for KISS in 2000. In the middle of his set he did a rant (in his own way) regarding what pieces of scheit California politicians were. All the liberals, of course. Lasted about 10 minutes. He held nothing back.

    I have no first hand knowledge, but given who we are talking about and his reputation, it would not surprise me that he has spoken similarly about President Obama many times before, with the ONLY difference being that this incident was caught by the media.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    To use your 'logic' then there is a laundry list of performers who are in the same Dixie Chick boat.

    None volunteered to go so all are as 'bad'.

    President Obama is thin skinned??? Might I suggest any minority attempting to climb to the Commander in Chief's Position was to be thin skinned he wouldn't make it past mayor. I think you are inventing this stuff as you go along.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    your missing the point, the military are gov funded and can not be seen taking sides in political debate. It would be highly inappropriate for the military to host Nugent after his comments, I would expect the same if it was a comment directed at a conservative Rep.
    Didn't seem to bother them, when they invited Nugent to participate in the concert, to begin with. They already knew his politics.

    Why invite him, to begin with? Obviously, it has more to do with hurting Barry's little feewings, than not wanting to seen as taking sides, politically.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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