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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Bruce Springsteen doesn't seem to be an asshole.
    but he is very political.

    the excuse given by Ft Knox is that the military is supposed to be apolitical, there fore it would be a conflict of interest to host Nugent.

    seems as what we have here is a different standard for different performers.... pro-Obama performers are allowed, anti-Obama performers are not allowed.
    and somehow , that sits well with the liberals who say they hold equality as a virtue.


    lots of hypocrisy running around this issue... too much.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Did all of these other entertainers commit the same sort of crime?

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    but he is very political.

    the excuse given by Ft Knox is that the military is supposed to be apolitical, there fore it would be a conflict of interest to host Nugent.

    seems as what we have here is a different standard for different performers.... pro-Obama performers are allowed, anti-Obama performers are not allowed.
    and somehow , that sits well with the liberals who say they hold equality as a virtue.


    lots of hypocrisy running around this issue... too much.
    While I agree there is inconsistency when one of the commanders is quoted as saying that performers should be apolitical, they also cite the recent inflammatory language by Nugent comparing Obama and Dems to coyotes who need by shot. It seems they didn't exactly have a problem with his politics until he said those things, as he was at first invited and then uninvited to perform.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Did all of these other entertainers commit the same sort of crime?
    what crime?

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    How many times did Bush hire the Dixie Chicks to perform?

    But that was OK, because the Chicks were Libbos.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    In no way has the government prevented Ted from expressing his political opinion. Period. He is still free to do so to his heart's content. That's what the First Amendment is about.

    Neither is the government obligated to employ him, or anyone else, if they choose not to do so. Period. This does NOT fall under the sphere of the First Amendment.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    In no way has the government prevented Ted from expressing his political opinion. Period. He is still free to do so to his heart's content. That's what the First Amendment is about.

    Neither is the government obligated to employ him, or anyone else, if they choose not to do so. Period. This does NOT fall under the sphere of the First Amendment.
    I agree with this...

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    I guess some folks, even those who appear to have served, understand how a military post operates.

    First a whole series of 'commands' operate the Post from the ranges, to the barracks to the Post morale. I don't know how Ft. Knox does it but Ft. Sill has a separate command that contracts for special events on Post. They do everything to include advertise the event, crowd control and advance ticket sales on Post. Ft. Sill has a wide variety of groups that play. It is a POST event, not a private concert. No one's Constitutional rights are violated if the Fort decides the performer is a bad egg and they don't want to smell him.

    It is also a fallacy to think EVERY post has the exact same opinion on every performer. For that matter, that each Post is a living being that makes these decisions. An entire chain of command operates the Post and those people rotate in and out of those positions so that in 3 months Nuge the Stooge might be welcomed with open arms by the new Post commander, Morale Officer, Commanding General, whatever.

    Wonder if those so outraged now were as outraged when the Dixie Chicks were blacklisted/attacked when BushII was president? They didn't threaten anyone.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why is it so interesting that Ted Nugent would want to entertain the people who are serving our country?

    Are you questioning his patriotism, just because he criticized the president?
    I'm questioning his patriotism because of his actions when he was actually called upon to serve by his country. I know the fact that he **** and pissed his pants and 'refrained from personal hygiene for ten days before his draft physical doesn't bother you, but I'll bet it bothers a hell of a lot of serving military people.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This never happened to Bruce Springstein.
    Did Bruce Springsteen piss his pants in order to avoid military service? I missed that one.
    "Groups with guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein"

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