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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, to hell with troop morale. Right? Politics takes priority.



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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Actually he does.
    Right. I'll remember that. For free speech, the government has to provide a venue and an audience.

    I suppose if someone wanted to perform a kazoo/vuvuzela concert for the troops, the government couldn't deny them that because it violates their free speech?
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Right. I'll remember that. For free speech, the government has to provide a venue and an audience.

    I suppose if someone wanted to perform a kazoo/vuvuzela concert for the troops, the government couldn't deny them that because it violates their free speech?
    This is from the same guy who thinks Rush's free speech was violated because people boycotted Rush's sponsors.

    I suggest he take this class online. Constitution 101: The Meaning and History of the U.S. Constitution - Hillsdale College

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Spin it how you want, but at the end of the day, it's the suppression of free speech.
    No, it's really not.

    But the rhetorical gymnastics you're performing to try and make this look like a 1st Amendment issue are amusing to say the least.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    This is from the same guy who thinks Rush's free speech was violated because people boycotted Rush's sponsors.

    I suggest he take this class online. Constitution 101: The Meaning and History of the U.S. Constitution - Hillsdale College
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    I doubt if the military would have approved of some rappers who have voiced violence again police either.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama | Stop The Presses! (NEW) - Yahoo! Music



    Don't honestly care about Mr. Nugent's politics but this is good. Our military can't be seen as supporting somebody who openly attacks the president. However it is interesting that Mr Nugent has no problem playing for the federally funded troops and getting a federal pay check to do so.


    Read the link about Nugent getting the boot. I'm sure he knew this would happen after his run-in with the Secret Service.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    i might be able to defend the Ft Knox command if they were consistent, but they are not...

    A spokesman for Fort Knox told TheBlaze.com that having Nugent perform “would be a conflict of interest since the military has the obligation to be apolitical.”

    Such a claim, though, seems dubious when it comes to choosing entertainers, who oftentimes show their partisanship. At its website, for example, Fort Knox is touting an appearance this month by comedian Jay Phillips who is supportive of Obama through his Twitter activities. And Ludacris has performed at U.S. Army bases even after the 2008 release of his pro-Obama song “Politics As Usual,” which calls Hillary Clinton, who was running against Obama at the time, a “bitch” who is “irrelevant.” The ultra-partisan song also called President George W. Bush “mentally handicapped” and says that Sen. John McCain "don't belong in any chair unless he’s paralyzed.”
    http://entertainment.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/21/11324499-military-cancels-ted-nugent-show-citing-anti-obama-comments?lite



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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Spin it how you want, but at the end of the day, it's the suppression of free speech.
    You know, you are right. Therefore, I am going to go to a Glenn Beck rally and yell out that he sucks. He won't agree with that, but his security people can't kick me out. I'm entitled to my free speech.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This never happened to Bruce Springstein.
    Bruce Springsteen doesn't seem to be an asshole.
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