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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    There is no Constitutional right to a government job

    I'm not saying management did the right thing by firing him, but that had absolutely nothing to do with his Constitutional rights. Your interpretation of the 1st Amendment is so far off-base it's not even funny.
    Forget his interpretation of the 1st amendment, his interpretation of how employment works is out of this ****ing world.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    I do not see the equivelency in comparing Nugent to such as Juan Williams. Juan was as a commentator in all venues. Nugent was hired to perform in concert as a musician, but as we all know, has become outspoken as a political commentator.

    I despise Obama. I think he is the most corrupt and inept President ever. But if I go around saying such in the news, and at venues such as the NRA, I have to expect that my employment opportunities will now be evaluated both on whatever musical talent I have, as well as my desire to have a big political mouth.

    None of Nugent's rights have been violated. Not a one. Were this five years ago, and some loud-mouthed liberal musician had gone off on Bush, I would have had no problem had they lost opportunities to perform for our troops as well.

    And let's be real with Nugent here. If not for his loud political views, he's Cat Scratch Fever history. His music was toast long ago.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Forget his interpretation of the 1st amendment, his interpretation of how employment works is out of this ****ing world.
    Oh but it gets so much better Hatuey, here's what he had to say over this:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060113417

    Republican Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich suggested at a Fox News forum hosted by Mike Huckabee in South Carolina on Saturday that it would be a good idea to fire federal employees for being too liberal. Federal law, on the other hand, says Gingrich’s plan would be illegal.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That makes me want to vote for him even more.
    Oh it just gets better and better

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    There is no Constitutional right to a government job

    I'm not saying management did the right thing by firing him, but that had absolutely nothing to do with his Constitutional rights. Your interpretation of the 1st Amendment is so far off-base it's not even funny.
    I never said there is; but nevermind what I realy said. Right?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Not only that, but he's one of the worst hypocrites around.

    I would bet my house on the fact that if George Bush were still president, and a left wing performer had been cancelled by the army after making even joking threats against the presidents life, he'd support that decision to the hilt.

    Here's how butthurt he was over the faux controversy over Common being invited to the white house.



    Oh and his signature is just hilarious.

    The saying "those who live in a glass house shouldn't throw stones..."

    well... I give you.
    How many times are you going to post comments out of context? This make, two.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said there is; but nevermind what I realy said. Right?
    If you didn't actually mean that, then it's even worse, as there's no legitimate case you can make for Williams' Constitutional rights being violated.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If you didn't actually mean that, then it's even worse, as there's no legitimate case you can make for Williams' Constitutional rights being violated.
    As if apdst EVER makes a legitimate case.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    As if apdst EVER makes a legitimate case.
    That is a pretty stupid post, and I believe a violation of rules here.

    Maybe just STFU next time ace.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    As if apdst EVER makes a legitimate case.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    The govt. is under no obligation to hire a Black Power or White Supremacist band.

    nor are they obliged to hire Ted Nugent. We hire who we want to hire.

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