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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're talking about a private company. I'm talking about the government. Apples and oranges.
    Wait, you're under the impression that a private company is allowed to refuse or terminate a citizens services because of speech they deem inappropriate, but not federally funded institutions? I'm afraid you're mistaken.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thank you for proving my point that the military isn't funding the concert.
    But they were providing the venue. And since it was government property they had the right to cancel Nugents act.

    Why are you still crying about Nugent? Don't tell me he's your dad, too. LOL

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Freedom of speech protects your from punishment by the government. The Constitution says that, actually.
    wrong, again.

    the United States govt. is under no obligation to hire musicians who threaten our President.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The military isn't funding this concert. It's being funded by ticket sales to attendees.
    so not one dime of taxpayer funds is involved with this concert, in anyway?

    that's bull**** and you know it.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so not one dime of taxpayer funds is involved with this concert, in anyway?

    that's bull**** and you know it.
    So what if there is? Seems no matter what the military is in charge here. Evidenty they sold the tickets when there was going to be no concert with Ted Nugent...sounds like false advertising to me. You can sue the government you know.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    LOL....Theodore in one story claimed he covered himself in human waste to get a 4-F, another time claimed he used crystal meth to get the 4-F ...whatever the case, he is a draft dodger and always will be.


    Attachment 67126332


    snopes.com: Ted Nugent Dodged the Draft?



    If this is from 1967 thru 1972, why at the bottom of the form the "Date Prepared" is 3/14/07? Why is there a 30+ year difference? Doesn't make sense.


    Anyway, we've all heard about his "soiling himself" to avoid the draft.


    Nugent spoke his feelings and he's paid the price. What is it you want from him now?

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    So what if there is? Seems no matter what the military is in charge here. Evidenty they sold the tickets when there was going to be no concert with Ted Nugent...sounds like false advertising to me. You can sue the government you know.
    Concerts get cancelled all the time, provided the people who paid for tickets get a refund no harm is done to them, no opportunity to sue\
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    ok, so the concert gets cancelled, ticket holders get their money back.

    no harm...no foul.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    So the Military is okay with fighting for our freedoms but not with Nugent exercising his Constitutional free speech rights? Got it.
    Core values of the US army:

    Loyalty
    Bear true faith and allegiance to the U.S. constitution, the Army, and other soldiers.
    Be loyal to the nation and its heritage.

    Duty
    Fulfill your obligations.
    Accept responsibility for your own actions and those entrusted to your care.
    Find opportunities to improve oneself for the good of the group.

    Respect
    Rely upon the golden rule.
    How we consider others reflects upon each of us, both personally and as a professional organization.

    Selfless Service
    Put the welfare of the nation, the Army, and your subordinates before your own.
    Selfless service leads to organizational teamwork and encompasses discipline, self-control and faith in the system.

    Honor
    Live up to all the Army values

    Integrity
    Do what is right, legally and morally.
    Be willing to do what is right even when no one is looking.
    It is our "moral compass" an inner voice.

    Personal Courage
    Our ability to face fear, danger, or adversity, both physical and moral courage.


    Theodore Anthony "Ted" Nugent is the worst posterchild for these above mentioned values.

    Almost everything he does in life (from his canned hunts, illegal hunting and criminal convictions for them, his draftdodging, his anti-female rethoric, his lack of understanding what "moral" actually means) shows his total lack of most if not all of the core values of the US army.

    Especially the concepts of respect and integrity are totally alien to the man.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It is, when it's the government using it as punishment for political comments made in public.
    Is it? I think it is the army deciding that they do not want a musician playing at their concert who does not respect or honor the core values of the US army and clearly has not shown that to the commander-in-chief of that army.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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