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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sounds like the government suppressing free speech, to me.
    Yep, it's right there in the constitution: "The right to perform music concerts shall not be infringed".
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Was this concert for the government's entertainment, or for the troops' entertainment?

    Obama's feelings are more important than troop morale?

    BTW, the government isn't paying for it. Our servicemembers are actually being charged to attend this concert.

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    As is the service members right, if the paid to attend, and the concert was cancelled they should get their money back. But as the "promoter, it is and was within the right of the government to cancell the concert

    Ted is still free to say what he wants where he wants, he just wont be paid for it by the government
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Yep, it's right there in the constitution: "The right to perform music concerts shall not be infringed".
    That's right. It's called, "freedom of expression".

    Surely, you're not suggesting that the government can shut down any concert they want?
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    As is the service members right, if the paid to attend, and the concert was cancelled they should get their money back. But as the "promoter, it is and was within the right of the government to cancell the concert

    Ted is still free to say what he wants where he wants, he just wont be paid for it by the government
    Well, it don't work like that in this country.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's right. It's called, "freedom of expression".

    Surely, you're not suggesting that the government can shut down any concert they want?
    No but it can prevent individuals of their choosing from peforming at events supported by their money or cancel the event entirely if they so choose. It's not a violation of any civil rights whatsoever.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's right. It's called, "freedom of expression".

    Surely, you're not suggesting that the government can shut down any concert they want?
    No I'm not. But, unlike you, I'm not suggesting Ted Nugent has a right to perform whenever and wherever he wants.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    No but it can prevent individuals of their choosing from peforming at events supported by their money.
    It's not the Army's money. It's the troops's money. They're the ones funding the concert, by purchasing tickets.

    That's how concerts work, ya know?
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's right. It's called, "freedom of expression".

    Surely, you're not suggesting that the government can shut down any concert they want?
    This has jack to do with freedom of expression. Fort Knox commanders can pick and choose whichever performances they approve of or don't.
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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    No I'm not. But, unlike you, I'm not suggesting Ted Nugent has a right to perform whenever and wherever he wants.
    Actually he does. The government doesn't have the authority to punish people over their political speech.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Military Cancels Ted Nugent Performance Citing Violent Rhetoric About Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, it don't work like that in this country.
    What do you mean it does not work like that in the US

    It just did.

    Ted is still free to say what he wants, the government did not pay for nor get Ted's services, and service members will get their money back probably

    Ted, does not have the right to say what he wants on the governments dime, nor would the Dixie Chicks
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