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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    A NK war would potentially involve major nations we are economically linked to South Korea, China and Japan. Our fragile economic situation is quite vulnerable to going into a tailspin from that kind of shock. Whether you like it or not, Globalization means that the U.S. is dependent of the actions of other nations. Sticking you head in the sand is no better than engaging in pointless conflicts.

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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    NK will attack the USofA? How?

    Boots on the ground invasion?
    Air attack on US city?

    How will NK start the war with the USofA? In your opinion?
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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    North Korea is socialist morons, of course they are our natural enemy. But then again, most of the "poor" of our own country are socialistic morons. Amazing how that works, socialistic believes equals poor. We shouldn't be giving "humanitarian" aide to any socialists, ours or anybody elses, since socialism is a inhumane ideal. The only real difference between the socialist starving poor in NK and the socialist starving poor here is that in NK, the people are not given any other choice, where as here, our socialist starving poor are starving poor as the result of their own decisions and choices, including the support of socialistic stupidity, not lack of oportunity.

    South Korea is an ally that we have made defence commitments with. We should always meet our obligations under treaties with other countries. Wake up people, America cannot exist in an isolationist vacuum. Ours and everyone elses economic future is entertwined and is no longer seperable. That means that at times, we must use our military forces to protect our interests and our allies which we cannot do soley from domestic basing.

    If it wasn't so tragic, it would be funny, those of you crying about supporting and providing aide to only those who chose to get born in the US instead of chosing to be born elsewhere. What a self-centered load of crap, every person, whether US or elsewhere deserves the same opportunities and freedoms that America has, no one choses to be born into socialist slavery in NK. People don't chose where they are born. In NK, they are given no choice, however in America there are some Americans seem to think that the very philoshies that destroy NK to point of needing Humanitarian aide should be adopted here, but, hey, we're Americans, so that same BS won't have the same result here. What a truely great place America really would be if everyone of you socialism loving Liberals just packed up and moved to someplace else that already has your desired level of socialism and left those of use who believe in self-determination and presonal responsibility alone.

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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    What possible benefit would a war between the US and North Korea be to anyone? To us or the North Koreans? Even the demonstrably insane Kim Jong Il wasn't crazy enough to start a war. I don't think anyone right now is dumb enough to see any way to come out better off for such a conflict. And that includes fighting between the North and South Koreans.
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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    What possible benefit would a war between the US and North Korea be to anyone? To us or the North Koreans? Even the demonstrably insane Kim Jong Il wasn't crazy enough to start a war. I don't think anyone right now is dumb enough to see any way to come out better off for such a conflict. And that includes fighting between the North and South Koreans.
    We would rid mankind of some socialist, that is a very good benefit.

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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    North Korea is socialist morons, of course they are our natural enemy. But then again, most of the "poor" of our own country are socialistic morons. Amazing how that works, socialistic believes equals poor. We shouldn't be giving "humanitarian" aide to any socialists, ours or anybody elses, since socialism is a inhumane ideal. The only real difference between the socialist starving poor in NK and the socialist starving poor here is that in NK, the people are not given any other choice, where as here, our socialist starving poor are starving poor as the result of their own decisions and choices, including the support of socialistic stupidity, not lack of oportunity.

    South Korea is an ally that we have made defence commitments with. We should always meet our obligations under treaties with other countries. Wake up people, America cannot exist in an isolationist vacuum. Ours and everyone elses economic future is entertwined and is no longer seperable. That means that at times, we must use our military forces to protect our interests and our allies which we cannot do soley from domestic basing.

    If it wasn't so tragic, it would be funny, those of you crying about supporting and providing aide to only those who chose to get born in the US instead of chosing to be born elsewhere. What a self-centered load of crap, every person, whether US or elsewhere deserves the same opportunities and freedoms that America has, no one choses to be born into socialist slavery in NK. People don't chose where they are born. In NK, they are given no choice, however in America there are some Americans seem to think that the very philoshies that destroy NK to point of needing Humanitarian aide should be adopted here, but, hey, we're Americans, so that same BS won't have the same result here. What a truely great place America really would be if everyone of you socialism loving Liberals just packed up and moved to someplace else that already has your desired level of socialism and left those of use who believe in self-determination and presonal responsibility alone.
    North Korea isn't a socialist state it's an authoritarian regime. How on earth are our poor "socialistic morons?" I'll wait for an reasonable explanation, but I won't hold my breath.

    I don't understand your reasoning behind claiming America is operating in a "isolationist vaccum." If you've been conscious for the last few decades, it would take very little effort to realize that we've hardly been hesitant to use military force to protect our interests abroad.

    It's sad that you took the time to write this lengthy paragraph chock full of hyperbole and downright fallacies soley for the purpose of smearing, distorting and broad brushing individuals of differing political persuasions.
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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    NK starting a war is essentially a war by proxy with China.

    Imagine we had no troops in Korea and there was no brake on Kim Jong Il (now his son), and they invaded a country effectively with Chinese support. Who would really control that country? NK or China? Besides all of that any withdrawl of troops from the South would be seen as a huge weakness by the Chinese and reopen their wargaming against Taiwan and Japan. We would be in no position to stop any moves they make. To say its not our responsibility is short sighted it would lead to war between the US in China in short order.

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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    A war with NK is of benefit to no one. If NK wanted to start a war, they would've already. They are very aware of the fact that we would wipe them off the face of the earth if they started a war. The only way a war with them is going to start is if the US or SK starts it. I wouldn't doubt that at all. What with us saying we'd go into Syria and all. I really hate our politicians.....
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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    North Korea isn't a socialist state it's an authoritarian regime.


    Socialist States are authoritarian regimes.

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    Re: Panetta: 'We're within an inch of war almost every day'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    What possible benefit would a war between the US and North Korea be to anyone? To us or the North Koreans? Even the demonstrably insane Kim Jong Il wasn't crazy enough to start a war. I don't think anyone right now is dumb enough to see any way to come out better off for such a conflict. And that includes fighting between the North and South Koreans.
    then how do you explain the fairly regular exchange of naval gunfire up around Pyong-Yong Do?

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