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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

sorry, but I find such sick & twisted behavior, to be contrary to our mission there.

something in my gut tells me you dont know what the mission is.

anyone familiar with post surge iraq or current afghanistan operations knows what coin is.coin has effectively turned operations from killing one enemy and another taking his place to us having a winning edge.

guess my point is what is our mission and what is coin since you claim something is contrary to our mission,that must mean you know what our mission is.
 
Meh... do we really care they're pissed off? We're leaving still on schedule....

What was the point of the war if we don't care what the Afghans thinK? And why do you condone increased risk for our soldiers still there?
 
sorry, but I find such sick & twisted behavior, to be contrary to our mission there.

I have pics of my dad with fellow soldiers in Vietnam with, the ears of dead VC plus, the carving of a turkey on a dead VC asshole on ThanksGiving Day

Whats the big deal
 
I have pics of my dad with fellow soldiers in Vietnam with, the ears of dead VC plus, the carving of a turkey on a dead VC asshole on ThanksGiving Day

Whats the big deal

thunder is actually right on this one,every stupid thing we do there comes back to haunt us,muslim culture is very touchy.

though i absolutely doubt that thunder knows why he was right.
 
fortunately we aren't running around with a policy of throwing acid in little girls faces for the crime of wanting to learn to read, so it turns out your appeal to moral equivalency is bull****. As, by the way, is your apparent understanding of counterinsurgency. :)

Unfortunately, there are still too many Americans like cpwill who just blindly accept whatever their gummint tells them, without asking for evidence to substantiate it.

The only known fact is that in war, innocents are hurt and killed by both sides, period. Acid attacks in young girls' faces are no exception.

And any notion that one group or another is responsible is difficult if not next to impossible to prove in a war zone, where forces do not wear clear markings indicating their allegiances and cannot be distinguished based on appearance.

It is often said that the day a konservative learns to differentiate fact from government propoganda (i. e. accusing Taliban of being all the acid attackers) is the day Hell freezes over.

I beg to differ. Should that day for konservatives ever arrive, Hell would turn into a Bose-Einstein condensate.
 
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thunder is actually right on this one,every stupid thing we do there comes back to haunt us,muslim culture is very touchy.

though i absolutely doubt that thunder knows why he was right.

When do we put our foot down with all this PC bull****? The catering to and bowing down to what the media thinks and at the same time, telling the rest of population to think?

If you decide to kinda fight a war, but not really hurt anyone, and make nice.... then you should just get the **** out

Throw in the towel and move on​
 
When do we put our foot down with all this PC bull****? The catering to and bowing down to what the media thinks and at the same time, telling the rest of population to think?

If you decide to kinda fight a war, but not really hurt anyone, and make nice.... then you should just get the **** out

Throw in the towel and move on​

unfortunatley this pc bs wouldnt be needed in any other region of the world,in the middle east,every time we kill civilians without just cause or insult the population,we simply create more enemies,thats why coin was created,or counter insurgency.
 
If one is unwilling to accept the naked, raw brutality of war, then one shouldn't start it.
 
I have pics of my dad with fellow soldiers in Vietnam with, the ears of dead VC plus, the carving of a turkey on a dead VC asshole on ThanksGiving Day

Whats the big deal
no offense but that's pretty sick & twisted.

anyone who engages in such behavior today should be forcibly detained and evaluated for severe mental illness.
 
no offense but that's pretty sick & twisted.

anyone who engages in such behavior today should be forcibly detained and evaluated for severe mental illness.

in vietnam they didnt have to worry about being mortared or attacked by suicide bombers for doing such things,they would just do it anyways:2razz:
 
no offense but that's pretty sick & twisted.

anyone who engages in such behavior today should be forcibly detained and evaluated for severe mental illness.

You have no idea, the hideous, gruesome and morbid ****....you see out there
 
You have no idea, the hideous, gruesome and morbid ****....you see out there

I feel nothing but sympathy for our brave soldiers who have been soo traumatized by war & blood, they they lose all sense of right, wrong, and common decency....and engage in such disgusting & tragic behavior.

they need our help...not our applauds.
 
thunder is actually right on this one,every stupid thing we do there comes back to haunt us,muslim culture is very touchy.

though i absolutely doubt that thunder knows why he was right.

meh, I'm thinking this kind of thing is going to be like the guy that went nuts and killed all those civilians. Not considered such a big deal to the afghans as it is to the Americans.

We need to just go ahead and admit to ourselves that our second IO priority is the American populace.
 
I feel nothing but sympathy for our brave soldiers who have been soo traumatized by war & blood, they they lose all sense of right, wrong, and common decency....and engage in such disgusting & tragic behavior.

such as what?
 
....since there is no other option, you think if we're going to be less than perfect, we might as well be the Baddest Mo Fo On the Planet?


well, that's a very American response, so I can't fault you on style... but I'm thinking maybe there are some "greatest in human history" slots we should leave to liberal atheists, like Mao :)

Well, I guess since a civil well reasoned response is too much to ask for, I guess I'll have to settle for silly hyperbole. I prefer we work toward our nobler selves, and you seem to seek something worse to justify just about anything. I'm comfortable where I am.

:coffeepap
 
As a society, we are supposed to be disgusted by seeing GIs posing with dead Afghans but remain oddly unfazed by the fact that, presumably, those same GI's have recently just put high-caliber rounds through the enemies heads? These guys are trained to kill, ordered to kill, and then we suggest that they are assholes because they should not dehumanize the enemy they have killed? I don't get the selected outrage. This is what war does to some people.

What if dehumanizing is the only way they can cope with the sitiuation they are in? Or maybe they weren’t cheering the enemy’s death and instead they were cheering their own lives? Cheering the fact that they are still alive and that particular wannabe suicidebomber will never again be able to attempt to kill American soldiers or innocent civillians.
 
In ten years of war 7 of of which in two different countries....how many of these incidents have there been?
 
You have no idea, the hideous, gruesome and morbid ****....you see out there

Then please share with us your reaction to your first kill. How did you react to it?
 
As a society, we are supposed to be disgusted by seeing GIs posing with dead Afghans but remain oddly unfazed by the fact that, presumably, those same GI's have recently just put high-caliber rounds through the enemies heads? These guys are trained to kill, ordered to kill, and then we suggest that they are assholes because they should not dehumanize the enemy they have killed? I don't get the selected outrage. This is what war does to some people.

But these aren't even people they killed, these are morons who strapped on a bomb vest and killed themselves! It's no different than taking a picture of an accident on the freeway. These soldiers had nothing whatsoever to do, in this case, with the death of the Afghan citizen. They did it to themselves.
 
You're seriously asking that question?

Yes. The horror of war is shielded from the American public. Many who served in the war have stated that people who never been in battle can't understand. So am curious as to his thought process then. That thought process of the solider is not given to the public. All the public sees is the smiling troops marching down the street while the public wave their flags and clap. But what did those soldiers just go through?
 
Then please share with us your reaction to your first kill. How did you react to it?

it wasn't my kill.. but after watching my first enemy get zapped, I threw up all over the place... I went from being scared ****less, unable to move, to violently ill in the blink of an eye.....a couple of days later, it was like night and day...death just didn't bug me much....fear and sickness was replaced by anger and malice.

what your mind will do to cope with the environment is amazing.
 
This is what you get when you lower the standards as to who gets in. I have a huge respect for most of our men and women in the military, but when standards are lowered and you have people entering that are not doing it for patriotic reasons and God has been basically driven out of our society, this is what you get. A lot of these young men and women have been raised and schooled in our God void liberal society which transcends all barriers including the military. A lot of them are void of any morals, ethics or values. Not all, most a lot of these men and women are not our parents military.
 
This is what you get when you lower the standards as to who gets in. I have a huge respect for most of our men and women in the military, but when standards are lowered and you have people entering that are not doing it for patriotic reasons and God has been basically driven out of our society, this is what you get. A lot of these young men and women have been raised and schooled in our God void liberal society which transcends all barriers including the military. A lot of them are void of any morals, ethics or values. Not all, most a lot of these men and women are not our parents military.

oy vey.

one of the most effective, hard chargin', Marines I ever had the pleasure of knowing was a baptist minister before he was drafted ( he later reenlisted)... he was also the most "moral" person I have ever had met.... so fine a person that upon his death ( KIA), I took his family in as my own and helped raise his son ( my godson).
this man was very influential to me, not only in what a Marine was supposed to be, but what a good person was supposed to be.

don't feed me no bull**** about godless liberal society and lowered standards.

hell, look back upon some of our most brutal battles... Marines would attend church services right before they embarked on Island campaigns where they would slaughter thousands of Japanese enemies with abandon.... these were otherwise "moral" men just doing what comes naturally in war.
 
it wasn't my kill.. but after watching my first enemy get zapped, I threw up all over the place... I went from being scared ****less, unable to move, to violently ill in the blink of an eye.....a couple of days later, it was like night and day...death just didn't bug me much....fear and sickness was replaced by anger and malice.

what your mind will do to cope with the environment is amazing.

That is a very honest and open look at your past experience. It is interesting how it changed you in as you say a very short period of time.
More than one of my friends who fought in Vietnam say the shocking thing for them was how young the enemy looked to them.
Am certain they have all those mental videos in their memories banks stored away. Majority just don't talk about that and that is very understandable.

That is a heavy burden to be put on guys of many who were just out of high school.
 
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