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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

That they have no basis on which to condemn these soldiers. A measured response where they can criticize is fine. But not condemn.


Be kind of hard to be Commander in Chief then?
 
well, lots of folks don't want to think that war means death,killing blood, guts and gore...., they'd rather believe we are over there yelling " pew pew" at bad guys and then the bad guys give up and go home.... they don't want the reality, they want the rated PG version.
They are home.just saying.....
 
if by "what I want to pay for" you mean "dead Taliban", then yeah, um, duh? we are at war.



I will admit to being continually amazed at the number of people in America who seem thick enough to have failed to grasp that rather basic concept.
The concept, the context, was paying for a war where US personnel reach this level.....the "it" that you (purposely) misunderstood.

Thick, indeed.
 
It has to deal with being there a long time. Just complete disrespect of human life.
...with enemy human life.
Japs. Krauts. WWII the greatest generation intentionally dehumanized the enemy in order to facilitate wounding and killing human beings. They killed surrendering Krauts. In some cases they took no prisoners. They pissed on enemy corpses. You know that phrase about kicking the sh*t of of someone? That came from kicking an enemy corpse until the intestines burst.

It is good that war is hell, lest we come to love it too much.

I wish we could learn to live without it. I do not believe we ever shall.
 
Absolutely incorrect analogy.

The question would be whether or not he'd be fine with the Taliban being upset about Taliban members did this to dead U.S. Troops. No where in James post did he suggest that the Taliban has to be okay with the fact some of our soldiers did this. He is saying he doesn't significantly care. The analogy you use is assuming he's saying something different. That's not being consistent, that's actually entirely non-related.
Nice argument. I like it.
 
When you have to expand the situation into some rabbit-hole realm of fantasy ... you lose.


Your post is a god damn disgrace. Shame on you <spit>
And your post reminds me of goebels and the nazi propaganda machine.do not criticize the army or the fatherland.
 
The concept, the context, was paying for a war where US personnel reach this level.....the "it" that you (purposely) misunderstood.

Thick, indeed.

actually US personnel have generally fought this war cleaner and with more class and fewer of these kinds of incidents than any other serious conflict that I am aware of in human history, especially one that has gone on as long as this one.

"thick" :roll:

"reach this level" :lol: wow. now we know you don't know what you are talking about :)
 
The PTSD excuse can't hold water anymore after several incidents like this. The military needs an overhaul.
You could double its size so people don't have to spend quite so much time in combat. Or we could choose to win instead of merely waiting out the Obama clock.
We could decide, as a nation, that we are not going to wage wars on the enemy's terms.

We could win the hearts and minds. But we would have to have a president and pentagon brass with balls again. How likely is that?
 
It's not my book you need to worry about. It's the UCMJ. What they did was stupid antics following a firefight. They did not commit war crimes, they did not slaughter civilians, rape, pillage or murder. They at worst disobeyed standing orders, a crime usually warranting reduction in grade and perhaps some confinement and a fine.
Are there any among us who have not done something stupid in our pasts?

This is prejudicial to good order and discipline. I think a very good wrist slapping is in order. I wish we had a picture of every single terrorist and member of the Taliban in exactly the same condition as the dead are in the pictures. We should not rest until we have a picture of an American soldier posing with every single dead member of the Taliban. Let's get them all. Strike a pose!
 
actually US personnel have generally fought this war cleaner and with more class and fewer of these kinds of incidents than any other serious conflict that I am aware of in human history, especially one that has gone on as long as this one.
First off, you would be hard pressed to prove such a claim since records like that do not exist, and I would venture that every war has a certain percentage that engages in that level of conduct. The article shows that discipline at that post was poor, it is leadership that allows that activity to bloom.

"thick" :roll:

"reach this level" :lol: wow. now we know you don't know what you are talking about :)
I'm sorry....when did you show some understanding of what I was talking about?
 
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Without reading all 8 pages of posts, all I can say is this:

If there was ever proof that the USofA needs to get out of these countries ASAP it's stuff like this that should put the final nail in that coffin.

Bring everybody home. Now. Get our people out of there. No matter where "there" may be. Bring them all home. Now.

Thats nice. That's really, really nice. (not)
 
When you have to expand the situation into some rabbit-hole realm of fantasy ... you lose.


Your post is a god damn disgrace. Shame on you <spit>

Your post is a god damn disgrace. You dont even attempt to reply to mine. My question still stands. Answer it. or kick rocks
 
Kind of amazing, too. Geopolitical Stability? who needs it? someone took a picture of someone else after they died!!!!
 
how many hearts and minds did we win with those photos?

how many did we set against us?

did not aid our mission an iota. hurt it immeasurably
So the idiotic homicide bomber's relatives are offended?
Awesome.
 
certainly. those that action causes to get recruited, but who were previously on the sideline

if this had been taliban in those publicized photos, featuring them beside the mutilated remnants of US GIs you would be leading the post count expressing your outrage
Whereas cutting the genitals off living captured soldiers is not such a big deal, right? How many times did you post in a negative way when that happened?
Did you object to them stuffing each man's genital's into the victim's mouth?
No?

Why not?

Bad things happen in wars. Really.
 
Why don't these bleeding heart pacifists go over and give out free blow-jobs to these Taliban bastards if they feel that much love for them.

They are our ****ing enemy. Slice 'em, dice 'em and julianne fry 'em. Film it and put a sound track behind it. I'd pay to watch.

**** the Taliban. Some of you folks need to figure out who the ****ing enemy is. It ain't our soldiers. (That is, unless you are Taliban or one of their sympathizers. And if you are, I do hope to see you smiling at the camera soon.)
I *could* learn to like you.
 
All of these guys who are doing this are a disgrace to the United States and the military.

Without reading the rest of the thread, most conservatives are OK with it.
 
There is a lot to see in it and I think everyone should see it often if they are paying for it. We have had over ten years of this in Afghanistan, lets get this out and let everyone decide if it is what we want to pay for.

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You do realize that this piece of sh*t human being was trying to murder as many others as possible? No? Maybe it is because you are a pathetic human yourself. Put yourself in the homicide bombers position. Please.
 
You do realize that this piece of sh*t human being was trying to murder as many others as possible? No? Maybe it is because you are a pathetic human yourself. Put yourself in the homicide bombers position. Please.
Funny...I could have sworn we were discussing the conduct of our troops. You thought I was trying to defend the Afghan...really?
 
Latino is not a race. Latinos are white, black, Asian, and a mixture of all three.
Yeah. Some of my best friends are Asian-latinos. You ought to hear how they pronounce their "r's".

It is my opinion that this is asinine. I could be wrong.
 
I serve my country in my own way. I have nothing to apologize for.
There there. You are a good little government worker... Don't let those mean bullies in the private sector who provide the funds that pay your exorbitant wages get you down.
 
No Latinos are of the Asian race? you clearly don't know a thing about Hispanics.

never heard of the Phillipines huh? :lamo
So Philipinos are now Latinos? How did that happen? And according to whom?

Hispanics. Made up by whom? Nixon? Awesome.
 
There there. You are a good little government worker... Don't let those mean bullies in the private sector who provide the funds that pay your exorbitant wages get you down.
Weird...and our service personnel are not "good little govt workers"?
 
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