Page 99 of 156 FirstFirst ... 4989979899100101109149 ... LastLast
Results 981 to 990 of 1555

Thread: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

  1. #981
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    It goes deeper much deeper. A case of....wear out one's welcome

    The Army was bullheadedly shaped to fight a war not in keeping with the most likely employment needs. In both Vietnam and A-stan/Iraq we were pushed hard by past generalship into a extremely* tank-heavy force structure* in spite of plentiful evidence that we would more likely need more mobile *light fighter*, less armored forces for the MOST likely employment in the future. Having forced ourselves into this structure - and having taken a very bad lesson from Vietnam against Army involvement in nation building over and over, ignoring the historical precident indicating that while we may not WISH to do it, we are the ONLY one's in our governmental structure who has or can - we ended up unable to effectively fight the insurgency wars we were sent into.

    What we need to do in the future....is to get in and get the **** out as quickly as possible.....NO ****ing nation building
    That is essentially what the Rand Report on the War on Terror, commissioned by the Pentagon said years ago.

    That conventional war is one of the least effective ways to fight terrorism. Terrorist groups, it was documented, fail most often for political reasons. Our losing the battle of winning the hearts and minds of the Afghans makes the Taliban's political power that much greater.

    That is why the military has condemned the actions of those that make fun of the Afghan's beliefs about the dead.
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  2. #982
    Sage
    mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    DC Metro
    Last Seen
    11-13-16 @ 12:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    22,499

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you think our much more modern military, no longer considers the mistreatment of the dead to be a violation?

    interesting..
    No, I think a 50+ year old manual is irrelevant. What is the code of conduct?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

  3. #983
    Sage
    ric27's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Seen
    06-15-17 @ 02:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    7,539

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    You could benefit greatly from your own advice. Something the defenders of these war criminals have in common is the application of the lowest common denominator of morality. It's not about what they do, it's about what WE do. Do we not only mess with the human remains of our foes but laugh and take pictures while doing it, or are we better than that? If we are not, why are we fighting these people under the falsehood of superior morals?
    What gives you the high ground to call others immoral?

  4. #984
    Sage
    mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    DC Metro
    Last Seen
    11-13-16 @ 12:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    22,499

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You don't have to convince me, you have to convince the Afghans after he is no longer under protection of an occupation by the most powerful military on the planet.
    I have to do no such thing. They have a Democracy, they can get rid of him themselves. I rather hope they will.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

  5. #985
    Sage
    mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    DC Metro
    Last Seen
    11-13-16 @ 12:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    22,499

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    mac does? Why? Is mac the president of the United States? When Bush was in charge of the military during his terms, those in criticism of the wars, and indeed Bush himself, made him personally responsible for things like this, along with bashing the military as a whole, now seems that the current CiC is left out of the equation in the blame the US for the worlds ills game. Why is that?


    j-mac
    Didn't President Obama promise we'd be out of there two years ago?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

  6. #986
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    The greatest city on Earth
    Last Seen
    08-04-12 @ 04:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    31,089

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Didn't President Obama promise we'd be out of there two years ago?
    nope he didn't.

  7. #987
    Sage
    mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    DC Metro
    Last Seen
    11-13-16 @ 12:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    22,499

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That is why the military has condemned the actions of those that make fun of the Afghan's beliefs about the dead.
    Until they extend that respect to the living, I'm not much concerned what they think about the dead.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

  8. #988
    Sage
    mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    DC Metro
    Last Seen
    11-13-16 @ 12:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    22,499

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    nope he didn't.
    Are you sure?

    "After 18 months, our troops will begin to come home … [O]ur troop commitment in Afghanistan cannot be open-ended – because the nation that I'm most interested in building is our own." – President Barack Obama, 1 December 2009

    "I'm confident that the withdrawal will be significant. People will say this is a real process of transition; this is not just a token gesture." – President Barack Obama, 15 April 2011

    "In July of 2011, you're going to see a whole lot of people moving out, bet on it." – Vice President Joe Biden, quoted in Jonathan Alter's The Promise
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

  9. #989
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,272

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    These soldiers need to be re-educated as to what it means to have honor & dignity.

    "What it means to have honor, and dignity"????? What the Hell? Have you ever served? Would you serve?


    j-mac
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  10. #990
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last Seen
    07-11-14 @ 06:21 PM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    1,025

    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    All of these guys who are doing this are a disgrace to the United States and the military.

    Every SINGLE last one of them should be Court-Martialed.

    DD on arrival.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •