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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
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    "After the Sudanese made it clear, in May 1996, that bin Laden would never be welcome to return,[clarification needed] Taliban-controlled Afghanistan—with previously established connections between the groups, administered with a shared militancy,[107] and largely isolated from American political influence and military power—provided a perfect location for al-Qaeda to relocate its headquarters. Al-Qaeda enjoyed the Taliban's protection and a measure of legitimacy as part of their Ministry of Defense, although only Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates recognized the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.
    While in Afghanistan, the Taliban government tasked al-Qaeda with the training of Brigade 055, an elite part of the Taliban's army from 1997–2001. The Brigade was made up of mostly foreign fighters, many veterans from the Soviet Invasion, and all under the same basic ideology of the mujahideen. In November 2001, as Operation Enduring Freedom had toppled the Taliban government, many Brigade 055 fighters were captured or killed, and those that survived were thought to head into Pakistan along with bin Laden.[108]"

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    But you keep making excuses for them.





    Right, you made a stupid statement about how we are bringing more soldiers in on waivers..... which unless you can prove that the soldiers in this instance were enlisted via waiver, serves no purpose other than to disparage those who serve. despicable.
    Again a different issue. The Taliban did not plan or execute 9/11.

    And I did offer evidence for the other claim. Even the entire search page. You're stuck in your belief system and are not listening or looking objectively.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again a different issue. The Taliban did not plan or execute 9/11.

    wait, so if I let a murderer plan, then murder someone, then put him in my basement and tell the cops to **** off, I am not responsible? Kinda weak logic you have there.



    And I did offer evidence for the other claim. Even the entire search page. You're stuck in your belief system and are not listening or looking objectively.

    "agreeing with you" is the farthest thing from "listening or looking" objectivley.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    wait, so if I let a murderer plan, then murder someone, then put him in my basement and tell the cops to **** off, I am not responsible? Kinda weak logic you have there.




    "agreeing with you" is the farthest thing from "listening or looking" objectivley.

    Not to mentioning actively encouraging the murder and planning other murders with them, too.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    wait, so if I let a murderer plan, then murder someone, then put him in my basement and tell the cops to **** off, I am not responsible? Kinda weak logic you have there.
    There is no evidence they knew anyone was planing anything. In fact, they claimed OBL was not guilty. You have to show they contributed, knew, partook. This has not been done.

    Again, you want to argue we invade countries where these people are, make that case. But don;t say those countries attacked us. Those are two very different claims. The fact is, no country attacked us, and we will never defeat this problem by invading countries.




    "agreeing with you" is the farthest thing from "listening or looking" objectivley.
    Once again, not what I said. Evidence was provided. Even the link to the search page to help. It was widely reported, and I even linked the military commenting on it. You've merely spouted off.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There is no evidence they knew anyone was planing anything. In fact, they claimed OBL was not guilty. You have to show they contributed, knew, partook. This has not been done.

    Again, you want to argue we invade countries where these people are, make that case. But don;t say those countries attacked us. Those are two very different claims. The fact is, no country attacked us, and we will never defeat this problem by invading countries.






    Once again, not what I said. Evidence was provided. Even the link to the search page to help. It was widely reported, and I even linked the military commenting on it. You've merely spouted off.



    Right, The taliban was innocent....
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    For other things, maybe. But they had no hand in 9/11. No one who attacked us was from Afghanistan. No money for it came from Afghanistan. So, there isn't even any conspiracy. The Taliban only dealt with things on a local level with no outward concerns at all. And now that we've invaded, look at the cost. Can you show gain?

    However, that's another issue. The simple point is, the Taliban did not attack us.
    Osama was a fundamental figure in the Taliban, if you think there was no complicency in the attacks, you are delusional.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again a different issue. The Taliban did not plan or execute 9/11.
    Irrelvant. They supported, harbored and protected those that did.

    And I did offer evidence for the other claim. Even the entire search page. You're stuck in your belief system and are not listening or looking objectively.
    You did not offer one subjective source for your claim.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Unlike you, I've served. I spend a good amount of time with the Wounded Warrior project, and shoot the **** with my brothers and sisters down at the VFW, both old timers and new guys, You know what I don't hear?

    Bull**** stories like yours.
    A lot of people simply don't talk about it. Others are ashamed of it. There are enough bad things told in the media with physical proof, I think a couple of guys I've known for a awhile would know what they were talking about.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    GIs posing by corpses stirs furor

    "The U.S. military once again condemned the actions of some of its troops in Afghanistan on Wednesday after photographs surfaced of smiling soldiers posing with dead insurgents in the latest battlefield scandal."

    "The photographs mark the latest public relations setback for the U.S. military as it seeks to gradually withdraw from Afghanistan.

    In January, an Internet video showed Marines laughing as they urinated on the corpses of three insurgent fighters. In February, riots erupted after U.S. soldiers inadvertently incinerated copies of the Quran. In March, an Army staff sergeant was charged with killing 17 Afghan villagers, mostly women and children, in Kandahar province.

    Meantime, distrust is building between U.S. forces and their Afghan allies. The number of treacherous, lethal attacks by uniformed Afghan security forces against NATO troops and trainers has risen substantially this year."

    "Sen. Jack Reed. D-R.I., a former Army paratrooper and member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said one possible factor is a lack of direct supervision. Under the military’s counterinsurgency strategy, many small units are dispersed across rural parts of Afghanistan, often without their platoon leaders or company commanders.

    “They aren’t always there, so they physically can’t exercise the leadership,” he said.

    Reed said the instances of misconduct are obscuring the military’s good deeds and effort to win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people. “This is one of the difficulties of this kind of operation, with counterinsurgency,” he said. “It is as much a political battle as a tactical one.”

    GIs posing by corpses stirs furor | The Journal Gazette
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    A lot of people simply don't talk about it. Others are ashamed of it. There are enough bad things told in the media with physical proof, I think a couple of guys I've known for a awhile would know what they were talking about.



    Right.... so I'm supposed to take your word for it.... I'll just stick with the hundreds of brothers and sisters I know over your supposed two "friends" Thanks.
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