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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Smells like gossip....

    Again - these people are unlawful combatants. The laws of war do not apply to them. They are criminals with guns and bombs - our objective is not in the first place to capture them. Our objective is to kill them. Get it?
    Killing old women that may or may not have been harboring a son that may or may not have been part of Al Qaeda? That elderly woman was an unlawful combatant? Honestly, how many people do you think die in these wars that are the actual enemy? Women? Children?

    You also have to understand that in Afghanistan and Iraqi, "friend" or "foe" these people do not give a **** about us. They do not give a **** if the US troops live or die. The majority of them by way of lack of education and media don't even know what 9/11 is, so there is wide confusion despite military efforts to tell them why, why we are actually there.

    I assure you, any horror stories people tell me about either of those countries are 100% true.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Where are these mystery facts?



    The Mustard gas that the US supplied the precursor for back during the war with Iran? We have used WMD as well. And Iraq no longer had that capability.

    The inspectors made 700 inspections and never found any threat to the US.

    The UN did not think war against Iraq was necessary.
    We provided much more support for Israel who bombed Iraq.
    A fat old man with a shotgun hated Bush? That's what you were skeered of? Regardless, he was of no threat to the US.
    Well, you are in the minority then. Even the Pentagon and the CIA could not verify any links between Saddam and al Qaeda, nor could they find any evidence of WMD that could have been a threat to us or Iraq's neighbors.

    The only threat Iraq represented was to stable world oil prices, as spelled out in Cheney's task force report two years before the 9/11 attack by the Saudis. There is no other feasible explanation of why the world's most powerful country would attack and occupy, for almost a decade, one of the weakest countries on the planet.
    Do you know how stupid it is to Monday morning quarterback a decision?

    Whatever is known about Iraqi WMDs now, at the time the best intelligence we had available said that Saddam had chemical weapons, he was still trying to develop nuclear weapons, he was supporting terrorists even if there was no strong connection with Al Quaeda, and that if he supplied those weapons to a terrorist organization, not just Al Quaeda, the results could be devastating. 9-11 showed that we couldn't afford to just react to a terrorist attack, we had to be proactive and go after them before the attack. Hence the global war on terror, not a global war on Al Quaeda. AQ may be the most visible terrorist organization, but they are certainly not the only one and they are not the only one that hates the US and has the capability to mount attacks against Americans

    After the fact, it was determined that there were flaws in the intell, but everything up till then said it was good

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Do you know how stupid it is to Monday morning quarterback a decision?

    Whatever is known about Iraqi WMDs now, at the time the best intelligence we had available said that Saddam had chemical weapons, he was still trying to develop nuclear weapons, he was supporting terrorists even if there was no strong connection with Al Quaeda, and that if he supplied those weapons to a terrorist organization, not just Al Quaeda, the results could be devastating. 9-11 showed that we couldn't afford to just react to a terrorist attack, we had to be proactive and go after them before the attack. Hence the global war on terror, not a global war on Al Quaeda. AQ may be the most visible terrorist organization, but they are certainly not the only one and they are not the only one that hates the US and has the capability to mount attacks against Americans

    After the fact, it was determined that there were flaws in the intell, but everything up till then said it was good


    I'm not into self delusion, sorry! Even a majority of post 9/11 Vets said the war with Iraq was not worth it.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Killing old women that may or may not have been harboring a son that may or may not have been part of Al Qaeda? That elderly woman was an unlawful combatant? Honestly, how many people do you think die in these wars that are the actual enemy? Women? Children?

    You also have to understand that in Afghanistan and Iraqi, "friend" or "foe" these people do not give a **** about us. They do not give a **** if the US troops live or die. The majority of them by way of lack of education and media don't even know what 9/11 is, so there is wide confusion despite military efforts to tell them why, why we are actually there.

    I assure you, any horror stories people tell me about either of those countries are 100% true.
    The justification is that these individuals are a danger to civilization, and that danger needs to be removed. This is not that complicated, ya know.

    Is it lawful to kill unlawful combatants? Well, yes, since they are not protected by the Geneva conventions.

    And BTW, these people hardly qualify as human beings after what they've done. They're ****ing animals, and if you don't see that, then there's pretty much no hope for you.

    My mother in law would gladly double tap one of the ****ers in front of a TV crew. Doubt she'll ever get the chance, but you never know. I'm sure people like you would be scrambling to bring her up on UCMJ and throw her ass to the dogs of the world court, but she wouldn't give a **** - that would be one less ****head who will go around lopping innocent people's heads off.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The justification is that these individuals are a danger to civilization, and that danger needs to be removed. This is not that complicated, ya know.

    Is it lawful to kill unlawful combatants? Well, yes, since they are not protected by the Geneva conventions.

    And BTW, these people hardly qualify as human beings after what they've done. They're ****ing animals, and if you don't see that, then there's pretty much no hope for you.

    My mother in law would gladly double tap one of the ****ers in front of a TV crew. Doubt she'll ever get the chance, but you never know. I'm sure people like you would be scrambling to bring her up on UCMJ and throw her ass to the dogs of the world court, but she wouldn't give a **** - that would be one less ****head who will go around lopping innocent people's heads off.
    Why couldn't you have just responded with, "There is no point responding to me."? So as I said, an old woman, and children are unlawful combatants? Tell me, how is an old woman and some school children in some God forsaken pit a threat to you? Honestly, I could care less about them as well, but at least I understand they aren't the ones we are after. You seem to believe that all of the people there are fair game.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'm not into self delusion, sorry! Even a majority of post 9/11 Vets said the war with Iraq was not worth it.


    Yes troops are useful when they help your agenda, war criminals when the don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Anytime I hear something like this I just shrug. I know people that have been over there that have done far worse. Like burn a old womans house down while she was still in it and shoot her in the knees when she came running out worse.


    Sure you do.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Sure you do.
    Excellent rebuttal. Maybe you would like the one about shooting kids with bean bags? Either way the media hides a lot or just gets to see the war from afar more than they let on.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    There's no need for anyone to join the patriots repelling the invaders when crusaders such as your countrymen are such excellent recruiters.


    Yes, let others fight Jihad while you sit on your couch and whine about the big bad Americanos.... Have another ring ding my friend, leave the fighting to the willing.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Excellent rebuttal. Maybe you would like the one about shooting kids with bean bags? Either way the media hides a lot or just gets to see the war from afar more than they let on.

    Unlike you, I've served. I spend a good amount of time with the Wounded Warrior project, and shoot the **** with my brothers and sisters down at the VFW, both old timers and new guys, You know what I don't hear?

    Bull**** stories like yours.
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