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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you believe life was better for them under the Taliban?


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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oooooh, "World political leaders".... Funny, earlier you said
    We.......the foreign occupiers.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you believe life was better for them under the Taliban?
    It doesn't matter what I think or what you think, it matters what the Afghan's think. Too bad we didn't learn that lesson in Vietnam or Iraq.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Really? I don't remember that happening....perhaps you can show me why you think that?
    I did already. http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060426889
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Which country has shucked Democracy and returned to dictatorship? Why can't you just answer a question?

    Edit: btw, Vietnam, South Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan are all democracies.
    Which of those ever had a functioning democracy in the first place? You have not made that case.

    Here's another question: When was the last time that two Democratic countries went to war with each other?

    The US, a democracy, is the most war mongering country in recent history. We go to war to establish world hegemony. When is the last time we fought a war to defend against invaders, the 1800's?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post

    In all of our recent wars, we have attacked dictatorships only when ultimately forced to do so.
    You have a short memory, who forced us to invade Iraq?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Anytime I hear something like this I just shrug. I know people that have been over there that have done far worse. Like burn a old womans house down while she was still in it and shoot her in the knees when she came running out worse.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You have a short memory, who forced us to invade Iraq?
    Actually, Iraq was a very clear threat. Political posturing has hidden a lot of facts.

    Hussein had previously possessed and used chemical and biological weapons.

    He kicked out inspectors and refused to allow the UN to complete their inspections and verify that his NBC program and materials had been destroyed.

    British and Russian intelligence services, in addition to American all stated that without a doubt, he possessed chemical, biological and nuclear materials in violation of 17 separate UN declarations.

    Saddam was a large supporter of international terrorism. He funded terrorist activities in the Palestinian territories and paid (I think the number was $25,000 to the family of a suicide bomber).

    He hated the US and had even tried to hire the assassination of President Bush's father, the former President.

    After 9/11, I believe that President Bush correctly concluded that based upon his past programs, his refusal to verify that his NBC program had been dismantled and the danger those materials would present in the hands of terrorists.

    Yup, Iraq was an imminent threat and needed to be made safe.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Anytime I hear something like this I just shrug. I know people that have been over there that have done far worse. Like burn a old womans house down while she was still in it and shoot her in the knees when she came running out worse.
    Smells like gossip....

    Again - these people are unlawful combatants. The laws of war do not apply to them. They are criminals with guns and bombs - our objective is not in the first place to capture them. Our objective is to kill them. Get it?

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Actually, Iraq was a very clear threat. Political posturing has hidden a lot of facts.
    Where are these mystery facts?

    Hussein had previously possessed and used chemical and biological weapons.
    The Mustard gas that the US supplied the precursor for back during the war with Iran? We have used WMD as well. And Iraq no longer had that capability.



    He kicked out inspectors and refused to allow the UN to complete their inspections and verify that his NBC program and materials had been destroyed.
    The inspectors made 700 inspections and never found any threat to the US.

    British and Russian intelligence services, in addition to American all stated that without a doubt, he possessed chemical, biological and nuclear materials in violation of 17 separate UN declarations.
    The UN did not think war against Iraq was necessary.

    Saddam was a large supporter of international terrorism. He funded terrorist activities in the Palestinian territories and paid (I think the number was $25,000 to the family of a suicide bomber).
    We provided much more support for Israel who bombed Iraq.

    He hated the US and had even tried to hire the assassination of President Bush's father, the former President.
    A fat old man with a shotgun hated Bush? That's what you were skeered of? Regardless, he was of no threat to the US.

    After 9/11, I believe that President Bush correctly concluded that based upon his past programs, his refusal to verify that his NBC program had been dismantled and the danger those materials would present in the hands of terrorists.
    Well, you are in the minority then. Even the Pentagon and the CIA could not verify any links between Saddam and al Qaeda, nor could they find any evidence of WMD that could have been a threat to us or Iraq's neighbors.


    Yup, Iraq was an imminent threat and needed to be made safe.
    The only threat Iraq represented was to stable world oil prices, as spelled out in Cheney's task force report two years before the 9/11 attack by the Saudis. There is no other feasible explanation of why the world's most powerful country would attack and occupy, for almost a decade, one of the weakest countries on the planet.
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