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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    If someone gets in the military, changes thier life around and serves honorably, i sure as hell won disparage them or use them to insult the military....

    Can someone name those who got in on waivers who subsequently committed war crimes so we can see they aren't simply talking out thier ass.
    Nor would I. All we have here is merely acknowledging a fact. I have made no judgement about it. To make one, I would have to know how many turned it around, and how many became a problem. As I don't know either, I don't feel I can amke a judgement yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nor would I. All we have here is merely acknowledging a fact. I have made no judgement about it. To make one, I would have to know how many turned it around, and how many became a problem. As I don't know either, I don't feel I can amke a judgement yet.


    So you were making an asinine irrelevant point. One that paints the military in a lesser light.

    You have no evidence the soldiers in question were waiivered so I fail to see the point or relevance other than attempting to insult todays military.

    Perhaps you care to explain yourself, brother.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    I won't speak for every grunt, I will however speak my mind.

    It is one thing to put a few extra rounds into every downed enemy you see.

    It is one thing to put two COM in a guy who has his hands up if the guys behind him are using him as a shield to get close.

    ALWAYS suspect bobby traps, FYI, we used to booby trap crap we left behind in the hope of sending some dumb, careless SOB a message. Don't shadow our patrol assh*le!

    Using 'calling cards' works for me, let the dead guy's buddies know we don't hide in the shadows.

    But it is a whole 'nother sack of rocks to take pictures of your team pissing on the dead, souveniring body parts, playing kick ball with some guy's head!

    Don't givash*t if 'they' do it and worse.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope:

    Military Lowers Standards To Fill Ranks - CBS News

    That was a news story.

    There is also this:

    Defense Department statistics show that the number of Army and Marine recruits needing waivers for felonies and serious misdemeanors, including minor drug offenses, has grown since 2003. Some recruits may get more than one waiver.

    Military Accepting More Ex-Cons

    I suppose the military hates itself, and that would explain that article away.

    If you need help:

    Military lowers standards to fill ranks - Google Search

    As for the rest of your silliness and comprehensions issues:
    Not one of these shows a link to the statistics they claim to represent, none of them cite a specific source for their data...and of course none of them are from any official USG organization. They are opinion pieces sponsored by commercial news agencies. If it's not official, it's not evidence.

    Besides, most of the waivers granted are for things that wouldn't keep you from getting most civilian jobs or into any university. Hell, President Clinton would have had to get one of these waivers to join. Are you claiming that the average serving soldier is morally superior to the average civilian?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nor would I. All we have here is merely acknowledging a fact. I have made no judgement about it. To make one, I would have to know how many turned it around, and how many became a problem. As I don't know either, I don't feel I can amke a judgement yet.
    You're not acknowledging a fact....you're claiming one. What is the rate? Where is written evidence that the military is granting waivers for what it didn't before? The fact is, the waivers were granted at the same rate for the same reasons....we just have more of them now because we have more soldiers now. 75k more.

    These waivers are primarily for things like minor drug possesion, drinking under age, maybe a DUI. You know...what everyone does in college.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You're not acknowledging a fact....you're claiming one. What is the rate? Where is written evidence that the military is granting waivers for what it didn't before? The fact is, the waivers were granted at the same rate for the same reasons....we just have more of them now because we have more soldiers now. 75k more.

    These waivers are primarily for things like minor drug possesion, drinking under age, maybe a DUI. You know...what everyone does in college.
    No. I'm acknowledging one. You're just in denial.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    ...These waivers are primarily for things like minor drug possesion, drinking under age, maybe a DUI. You know...what everyone does in college.
    um, please don't speak for us.

    I committed no such felonies while in college.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Well, given your sedentary and timid nature, I guess you wouldn't be able to see through the eyes of those willing to protect you.


    So the savages, are the guys posing with the body parts of the people who blew themselves up trying to kill them. but the dead savage scum, are, to you, not savages.

    Interesting.


    So when will you be joining Jihad?





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    There's no need for anyone to join the patriots repelling the invaders when crusaders such as your countrymen are such excellent recruiters.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Fox...(can't help it, it's on at work all the time). More importantly, I Googled it when I got home. Huff has a piece on it. Of course they put an imperialist spin on it.

    here's an NYT article:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/19/wo...a/19bases.html
    From your article:

    "Mr. Karzai has already said any such agreement would have to be put to a nationwide loya jirga, a tribal assembly that acts as referendum on important issues.

    “In general, people in Afghanistan are against foreign forces,” Mullah Lodin, the negotiator, said. “I don’t think the loya jirga will ever support foreign forces in the country.”
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    um, please don't speak for us.

    I committed no such felonies while in college.
    Get serious....

    Do you know, the difference between a petty offense and a felony???

    Good gawd!!!!

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