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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Blame, the suicide bombers and terrorists who were bent on maiming and killing as many as they could, with no regards to who it was they killed.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    First off, you would be hard pressed to prove such a claim since records like that do not exist, and I would venture that every war has a certain percentage that engages in that level of conduct. The article shows that discipline at that post was poor, it is leadership that allows that activity to bloom.
    the poor discipline came in when they weren't made to delete their pictures. agreed.

    however, we actually have some pretty good records, not the least bit living ones. Interview some Marine Corps vets from WWII and ask them how much compassion they showed the Japanese, and visa versa.

    Our troops didn't "descend" to this level. We have finally managed to civilize as a human species to where this is considered shocking. As opposed, you know, to all the stuff that has gone on in every OTHER war that humanity has fought. Go take a look at WWII and come back and tell me that snapping a photograph is some kind of descent into bestiality

    I'm sorry....when did you show some understanding of what I was talking about?
    Tell me about your combat deployments with the infantry in the past decade. I'm all ears.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the poor discipline came in when they weren't made to delete their pictures. agreed.

    however, we actually have some pretty good records, not the least bit living ones. Interview some Marine Corps vets from WWII and ask them how much compassion they showed the Japanese, and visa versa.

    Our troops didn't "descend" to this level. We have finally managed to civilize as a human species to where this is considered shocking. As opposed, you know, to all the stuff that has gone on in every OTHER war that humanity has fought. Go take a look at WWII and come back and tell me that snapping a photograph is some kind of descent into bestiality



    Tell me about your combat deployments with the infantry in the past decade. I'm all ears.

    War has no bars. The only thing these guys are guilty of is a crappy ass photograph.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    well I'm not really a photographer, so I'm not set up to comment much on pictorial quality...

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well I'm not really a photographer, so I'm not set up to comment much on pictorial quality...
    I'm not talking about aesthetics. They took a stupid ass photograph as many soldiers have done through out history. And why the LA Times gave it the time of day I dunna know. Yellow journalism rules the day.



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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How are these guys putting anyone at greater risk and undermining the mission?

    What are you worried about? That the Taliban might start to dislike us, or something?

    Grow up!

    You wouldn't be able to comprehend why Afghans would be upset about an invading arming desecrating corpses of their fellow countrymen, so I won't waste time trying to explain it to you.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They should be human, which they are. There's nothing wrong with what they're doing.

    It wouldn't bother you to see US corpses being desecrated by an invading army? Just normal human activity eh?

    Boys just got to have fun?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Nothing other than violating their regulations, desecrating the enemy, providing the enemy with more reason to carry on with the insurgency, disgracing their own uniform...
    And violating international law as well which forbids “outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment,” and contains this provision specific to treatment of the dead:

    International Humanitarian Law - First 1949 Geneva Convention
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The likelihood is that this sort of thing has gone on during wartime ever since there were humans. The difference is, now it can be videoed and sent around the world in a matter of minutes. Before, no one but the soldiers involved saw it.

    War is what it is. It involves killing and maiming the enemy until he gives up. There is nothing humanitarian or glorious about it. If we don't have the stomach for war, real war, then we shouldn't be starting them.
    Or, why we should end them, just like we did with the Vietnam war.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Hmmm.....There is absolutely nothing wrong with collective national vengeance when attacked by cowards and there is certainly nothing wrong with seeking justice for 3k of our murdered citizens..post 9/11
    I really don't think you can classify this as collective national vengeance. If there's one thing I was and still am absolutely convinced of after my 15 month afghanistan tour, is that we're not protecting America or doing America any kind of service. That being said, I personally would like to think that we're better than them, and are for the most part a righteous army. As a former grunt, I get why they did it. We're pushing these guys past their breaking point, and it's extremely hard for any of them to even remotely give a f***.

    The russians tried to conquer afghanistan with extreme violence, shooting and raping practically everything that moved, and it didn't work out for them. We on the other hand attempt to gain the support of the people, and things like this undermine that. Although I ultimately believe that afghanistan is unwinnable, I think we're having a lot easier time fighting a fringe group of insurgents vs the entirety of the civilian population.

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    Barrack? You here? Hey everybody! The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama has joined us. Do we bow to him or does he bow to us?
    Afghanistan in my opinion is the worst country on the planet, it's a desolate money pit, and America is growing tired of wasting trillions of dollars on wars that don't even improve our safety. I'd say I hate Obama more than the average guy, but to liken anyone who is against the war to that POS is ridiculous.
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