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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

In your world you disrespect the dead and praise the war criminals. His is preferable.

ICC Elements of Crimes
With reference to the war crime of outrages upon personal dignity, the 2000 ICC Elements of Crimes specifies that Article 8(2)(b)(xxi) and (c)(ii) of the 1998 ICC Statute also applies to dead persons



I find your naivety of the real world and the nature of war, perplexing. Again, we shoul reapect the taliban and condem us soliders....


Really? When you play call of duty, which side do you prefer to play? :roll:


What punishment fits this "war crime"? Please be specific, as I find your hysteria, curious to say the least.
 
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In your world you disrespect the dead and praise the war criminals. His is preferable.

ICC Elements of Crimes
With reference to the war crime of outrages upon personal dignity, the 2000 ICC Elements of Crimes specifies that Article 8(2)(b)(xxi) and (c)(ii) of the 1998 ICC Statute also applies to dead persons

A guy straps a bomb to his chest, dresses like a non-militant, tries to blow up our soldiers but instead only kills himself. That guy deserves respect, and our guys that almost, but didn't, get blown up, are war criminals?

You have some serious problems with logic, reason and ethics.
 
A guy straps a bomb to his chest, dresses like a non-militant, tries to blow up our soldiers but instead only kills himself. That guy deserves respect, and our guys that almost, but didn't, get blown up, are war criminals?

You have some serious problems with logic, reason and ethics.

You have serious problems with ethics. If you excuse your own appalling behaviour by pointing to others as a yardstick, then you are no better than they are.
 
no, the United States Military believes we should show respect to the dead, regardless of who they were.


Again, you want to respect dead savages who try to kill americans, and condemn americans who snapped a picture with the savage scum that tried to kill them.


I guess thats a difference between you and I. :shrug:
 
Again, you want to respect dead savages who try to kill americans, and condemn americans who snapped a picture with the savage scum that tried to kill them.


I guess thats a difference between you and I. :shrug:

I want America to have the moral highground and to show the world why the enemy is evil and we are good.

....unlike you.
 
This is all blown out of proportion.

Soldiers and Marines are trained to kill. Such training comes with a great degree of de-sensitization. After all it is easier to kill if you view your enemy as a mere object. Of course, Geneva Laws and such are also taught, which is why our military doesn't walk around with hacked off ears around their necks like wars of old.

Consider the situation here with these "disgraces." These soldiers pose with dead bad guys. Marines in the past pissed on dead bad guys. Are the masses in Afghanistan murdering over the offense? No. They know what their bad guys are. But offend God (their sous) by burning a Qu'ran (it's just a book people) and they will murder over it. My point is that we in the West often confuse our own sensibilities and manners with how thw rest of the world views things. The Geneva convention is a Western invention applied to the rest of the world. Manners in war is a Western convenience (this wasn't always so).

So while taking pictures of dead enemy or posing next to one may be unproffessional, it is hardly a disgrace. Ten years of constant deployment to two seperate countries by men who volunteer upon re-enlistment is going to eventually take its toll. We should be thankful that out of hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground over the years only one has gone on a rampage and slaughtered civilians. There's the disgrace. Gain a perspective.
 
if you are being honest, then you have great difficulty understanding what other people write.



You think the soldiers committed war crimes


You think we need to respect the enemy who tried to kill them.


If not explain your comments.
 
I know that its unethical to take smiley photos next to the mangled dead bodies of the enemy, and it violates military rules regarding respect for the dead...as it should.


I always enjoy a light chuckle over the contradictions. Of course, you are correct. It is unethical. Most have trouble taking pictures of dead bodies at all because it is disrespectful. The cotradiction is in the understanding that we may disrespect life by taking it (and calling a legal act of murder because of war), but we'll be damned if we disrespect death by taking photos. The same is true for how we kill. We can send a serrated blade through a man's skin and rip out his organs or pull a trigger and send bits of metal through his heart, but using gas is "unethical" and "immoral. We humans are entirely stupid in how we justify our needs to be barbaric.
 
I know that its unethical to take smiley photos next to the mangled dead bodies of the enemy, and it violates military rules regarding respect for the dead...as it should.

Doesn't violate squat. I'm shooting and blowing up a body. I'm taking a guys life....ending his ****ing life...that in itself is a valid military purpose.

Then I pose with body parts. How can you condemn one act and not the other?

How mutilating/killing someone, for legitimate purposes be less offensive than posing in pics with their POS dead body???
 
At best you could say that we enabled them to put their leaders in place...and that is something we should be proud of. Of course that would be lost on the loathers.

Reckon that depends on your point of view. Remember, we weren't asked to do any of that. And the people are not fans of our efforts. Bringin war to them, a war they didn't choose, is not a largely popular thing. I suspect you can't understand why that would be?
 
Doesn't violate squat. I'm shooting and blowing up a body. I'm taking a guys life....ending his ****ing life...that in itself is a valid military purpose.

Then I pose with body parts. How can you condemn one act and not the other?...

easily.

killing the enemy is often times necessary and a perfectly appropriate & legal act.

posing next to his dismembered body for a photo, isn't.

we ARE the good guys....right?

we are the ones with the correct & proper valus....right?

they hate us for who we are and what we represent....right?

I mean, that was Bush's whole ****ing justification for going to war in the first place.
 
the fact that you need someone to explain this to you, is part of the problem.

No - pony up.

Counter with critical thinking what, I posted
 
..still waiting for you to back up this claim, Rev.

Or was it just another of your baseless claims.

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Semantics doesn't change the fact, your position is to condemn these troops and respect dead taliban who tried to kill them.

Note your lack of denial.
 
No - pony up.

Counter with critical thinking what, I posted

anyone who thinks its okee dokee to pose for photos next to the mangled bodies of their enemy, doesn't belong in the military. they lack the moral compass to make honorable & decent decisions in the battlefield.
 
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