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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Those soldiers will face their responsibility through the strict standards of the UCMJ. That is not the LAtimes place.

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    Yes. Agreed. But, they don't do this, it can't be reported. While blame for anything is often shared, why skip the source to complain about the consequences?

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Winston, the difference is that he didn't have about 3 billion people on the Internet ragging on his ass for doing it.
    Brady became very famous and wealthy off these images. Newspapers and people bought them like crazy.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I can agree with the fact that the LA Times probably shouldn't have published the pics. But the larger issue is that the pics were taken.

    Sounds like you agree that the soldiers who took the pics were jackasses. Good to hear.
    One of the units I was in when in the military was the 101st. I took my duties seriously. But there are all kinds in the military, and from all socio backgrounds. I was lucky enough to serve in peacetime, so I never was in a position to know what it is like to serve repeated tours, in different countries. The actions of soldiers span the range of everything from proper, to idiotic. Much like those soldiers at Abu Grieb [sic] nothing good comes of pictures.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes. Agreed. But, they don't do this, it can't be reported. While blame for anything is often shared, why skip the source to complain about the consequences?
    Who said they couldn't report on it? A story of the incident would have been just fine, pictures? Nah, that was put out there to sell papers at the expense of whether or not it ends up being responsible for additional deaths of the papers own fellow countrymen in harms way. I think that is what is disgusting.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    If they are held accountable then I will be happy.

    What I think is being argued is some people are claiming these guys did no wrong.
    I don't think anyone has said they did no wrong. The disobeyed a standing order, then did wrong and they should be punished for it. Accordingly.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    One of the units I was in when in the military was the 101st. I took my duties seriously. But there are all kinds in the military, and from all socio backgrounds. I was lucky enough to serve in peacetime, so I never was in a position to know what it is like to serve repeated tours, in different countries. The actions of soldiers span the range of everything from proper, to idiotic. Much like those soldiers at Abu Grieb [sic] nothing good comes of pictures.

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    I don't know. Pictures played a role in finally putting an end to the war in Vietnam. Maybe if the people back home get to see what is really happening, we'll have less of an appetite for war. Maybe we'll eventually quit having wars at all. That won't happen in my lifetime, most likely, but perhaps one day we'll really get beyond the need to go off and kill people.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I don't know. Pictures played a role in finally putting an end to the war in Vietnam.
    Nah, that was propaganda did that.

    Maybe if the people back home get to see what is really happening, we'll have less of an appetite for war.
    Yeah, who cares who's son or daughter it ends up killing in the mean time. After all, just serving indicts, right?

    Maybe we'll eventually quit having wars at all. That won't happen in my lifetime, most likely, but perhaps one day we'll really get beyond the need to go off and kill people.
    Pipe dream, that isn't accomplished by turning against your own sons and daughters serving. But that doesn't mean, others won't come to kill us, I guess we just can't respond, right?


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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, that was propaganda did that.



    Yeah, who cares who's son or daughter it ends up killing in the mean time. After all, just serving indicts, right?



    Pipe dream, that isn't accomplished by turning against your own sons and daughters serving. But that doesn't mean, others won't come to kill us, I guess we just can't respond, right?


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    Propaganda got us into the Big Muddy in Vietnam in the first place. Remember the Gulf of Tonkein resolution? Once the folks back home saw pictures of villages being bombed with napalm, many people lost their stomach for the war.

    Losing our appetite for war and not starting them isn't going to send our sons and daughters off to kill or be killed. Starting wars does that. When they come after us, then we'll defend ourselves. Being the aggressor is not the role of a democracy.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    No you cannot piss on the dead. WTF is wrong with you? That is disgusting. Death is going to happen in war. But you leave the bodies or bury the dead. You do not mock their dead bodies. You do not pose them. You do not piss on them. You do not have sex with them. You do not sell their body parts on ebay. Once you have killed an enemy combatant it ends there.
    Why not? It's funny that all you liberals just make claims without backing them up at all. What you really mean is that you are personally offended by something, therefore you pretend that it must be true.

    It ain't necessarily so. You're welcome to be offended if you want to be, but to tell everyone that your offense makes it objectively wrong is ridiculous. But that's where political correctness came from, isn't it? It bugs one person, therefore nobody can do it.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    It was distasteful, disrespectful and an embarrassment to the United States military.
    Hmmm.....There is absolutely nothing wrong with collective national vengeance when attacked by cowards and there is certainly nothing wrong with seeking justice for 3k of our murdered citizens..post 9/11

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