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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Uh huh...I get that...But tell me....Where is the protest by Afghanis? Are they out in the streets over this? Or is it possible that they hate Taliban suicide bombers more?


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    I am sure they do. I hate the Taliban as well. That doesnt justify anything.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Killing them is not offensive. Their bodies are not offensive. Posing the dead body to mock them for your own amusement is ****ing disgusting. You bury the dead, you dont use a dead body as a toy.
    Riddling a person with bullets, disintegrating them with C4, or filling them with shrapnel up their arses doesn't humiliate or desecrate a person or body.

    The act of killing them isn't offensive, their dead mutilated bodies, in any form isn't offensive either. That is why it is a false moral outrage.

    We can bomb on them, shoot them to a pulp, burn them, choke them, drown them, piss on them, radiate them, and we can use a bomb that uses so much oxygen it causes their lungs to be sucked out of their bodies....

    but take a pic holding their body parts? That is too far?

    Stop the fake moral outrage

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, we should instead be talking about the despicable behavior of the Taliban, and suicide bombers and their indiscriminate murder of women and children.


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    A couple of things: 1) No one defends the Taliban or such people, hence, no debate. 2) they don't represent me or my country. So, this strawman really means nothing to this discussion.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I am sure they do. I hate the Taliban as well. That doesnt justify anything.

    Who is saying that it is justified? No, I am saying, along with others that things like this do happen, and in the past the military has dealt with transgressions like this. But what we have today is no consideration to the lives of our own troops that were not involved in this by purposely ignoring the request to not publish these photos, then doing it anyway knowing full well it could result in American deaths.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Riddling a person with bullets, disintegrating them with C4, or filling them with shrapnel up their arses doesn't humiliate or desecrate a person or body.
    Agreed.


    The act of killing them isn't offensive, their dead mutilated bodies, in any form isn't offensive either. That is why it is a false moral outrage.
    This is not correct. A dead body being used as a toy for your amusement is offensive. There is no false moral outrage.
    We can bomb on them, shoot them to a pulp, burn them, choke them, drown them, piss on them, radiate them, and we can use a bomb that uses so much oxygen it causes their lungs to be sucked out of their bodies....
    No you cannot piss on the dead. WTF is wrong with you? That is disgusting. Death is going to happen in war. But you leave the bodies or bury the dead. You do not mock their dead bodies. You do not pose them. You do not piss on them. You do not have sex with them. You do not sell their body parts on ebay. Once you have killed an enemy combatant it ends there.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who is saying that it is justified? No, I am saying, along with others that things like this do happen, and in the past the military has dealt with transgressions like this. But what we have today is no consideration to the lives of our own troops that were not involved in this by purposely ignoring the request to not publish these photos, then doing it anyway knowing full well it could result in American deaths.

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    If they weren't mocking the dead and treating them as toys then there would be no picture and nothing to publish. It is about accountability and responsibility. These guys ****ed up and the press showed it. The LA Times did not force these guys to do anything.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Killing them is not offensive. Their bodies are not offensive. Posing the dead body to mock them for your own amusement is ****ing disgusting. You bury the dead, you dont use a dead body as a toy.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How do you like your steaks cooked?
    I dont eat steak, but even so, how is that relevant?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

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    How do you like your steaks cooked?
    Knock their horns off...and wipe their ass. Is there any other way?

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    If they weren't mocking the dead and treating them as toys then there would be no picture and nothing to publish. It is about accountability and responsibility. These guys ****ed up and the press showed it. The LA Times did not force these guys to do anything.

    Again, I think you are either confused, or conflating purposely to mitigate the media's culpability in the deaths of American troops. The LAtimes is also not going to be in any position to mead out judgement on these soldiers, and they were asked by the Pentagon to not publish the photos in consideration of possible backlash within theatre.

    Now, unless you are one of those that believes that a couple of jack asses in any particular unit acting like jack asses is reason that another soldier in another unit should lose their life over this, then I would have to say that the media is keeping up a stupid policy of undermining the safety of our own troops once again. Remember, no one said that a story couldn't be written about the incident, just that the actual pics have no journalistic value.

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