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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Just because others commit war crimes does not mean that the U.S. should engage in the commission of war crimes, otherwise the U.S. would lose the ability to distinguish itself from those who actively commit or rationalize the commission of war crimes.
    They didn't commit a war crime. Offending you is not a crime, war or otherwise.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    why do I feel its troubling to attempt to sympathize & understand taking photos with the remains of a dead enemy?

    maybe because I have a clear sense of right & wrong, moral & immoral, and common decency.

    In our society, even the remains of our enemies deserve respect. This is what makes us right...and them wrong. This is what makes us good..and them evil.

    Forgive me for having a inflated view of American values.
    Maybe you can explain why taking a picture of the remains is wrong then.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    The likelihood is that this sort of thing has gone on during wartime ever since there were humans. The difference is, now it can be videoed and sent around the world in a matter of minutes. Before, no one but the soldiers involved saw it.

    War is what it is. It involves killing and maiming the enemy until he gives up. There is nothing humanitarian or glorious about it. If we don't have the stomach for war, real war, then we shouldn't be starting them.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Just because others commit war crimes does not mean that the U.S. should engage in the commission of war crimes, otherwise the U.S. would lose the ability to distinguish itself from those who actively commit or rationalize the commission of war crimes.
    Whoa there....It may be stupid, it may distasteful or gross, childish, lacking in discipline, or whatever, it isn't a crime punishable in a civilian court and nothing more than punishment under UCMJ should come of it

    Morals are subjective and are simply a matter of taste. My morals are different than yours or anyone else's, they cannot be used solely as a basis for an argument.

    You find a pic of severed legs offensive, but not the act which caused them to be severed.

    Thats bull****...and nothing more than false moral outrage.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    You find a pic of severed legs offensive, but not the act which caused them to be severed.
    I think that's a fair point.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The likelihood is that this sort of thing has gone on during wartime ever since there were humans. The difference is, now it can be videoed and sent around the world in a matter of minutes. Before, no one but the soldiers involved saw it.

    War is what it is. It involves killing and maiming the enemy until he gives up. There is nothing humanitarian or glorious about it. If we don't have the stomach for war, real war, then we shouldn't be starting them.
    Agreed. Why start a ****ing war if we don't have the stomach for said war

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    How on earth could you possibly take what I said to mean that?
    Point....If you refuse to abide by a convention you are no longer protected by it. In this case, the Taliban

    How can you say, blowing someones legs off is ok as long as it has a military purpose/objective, but then taking a stupid pic with their disfigured limbs is a war crime?

    Tell me, wise one?

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Just because others commit war crimes does not mean that the U.S. should engage in the commission of war crimes, otherwise the U.S. would lose the ability to distinguish itself from those who actively commit or rationalize the commission of war crimes.
    Taking photos of dead bad guys isn't a war crime. Violation of the regulations, perhaps, but not a war crime.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and neither do some American troops, apparently.

    and no, not all Taliban are terrorists. Many of them are just a guerilla army.
    What a day, when Libbos make excuses for the Taliban.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    FACT: many folks, especially if they are not of the older generation, refer to blacks as "Negroes" or "Colored", merely to be provocative & offensive. This is clearly what Apdst is doing....and its also not the first time he has refered to blacks using VERY offensive & hateful language.
    But...but...but I'm black! I can say anything I want and there's nothing wrong with it. Get a grip.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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