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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The question is for those who are ok with US military members doing it. I want to know if they would be ok with the opposition doing it to our dead, especially if they dead was one of their family members.

    I am not sure what laws are being broken but some clearly are if these guys are facing charges.
    Taliban begins killing EMT/medics, we can now begin killing their bearded toweled medics...Is that ok?

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    In my view, the U.S. Military needs to take much tougher action against those who engage in such conduct. Such unprofessional conduct has broad ramifications for the national interest (U.S. reputation, foreign relations, etc.). The firmness of the response should be consistent with the damage such conduct causes to the nation as a whole. In an age of intensive and almost instantaneous access to information, these incidents have far more opportunity to cause damage to the national interest than in the past when fewer people would gain access to information concerning what happened.

    Right now, I suspect that the measures taken against the individuals responsible for such conduct are overly accommodating. Hence, episodes of such behavior have occurred on repeated occasions, not to the point where such behavior is commonplace but beyond the point where it can be described as isolated or rare. A good starting point might be immediate dishonorable discharge and loss of any pension/health benefits that one might otherwise have accrued from one's military service if one is found to have engaged in such conduct.

    Clearly, a counterargument would be that the soldiers are young, they were acting impulsively without thinking, etc. Unfortunately, the nature of their job requires professional conduct at all times. Their unprofessional behavior inflicts or has the potential to inflict serious damage to the national interest, not to mention the reputation of the U.S. Military and its personnel, the overwhelming majority of whome are highly professional. In the broader context, soldiers serve to safeguard the national interest, not to damage it. The national interest takes priority. Therefore, it should take priority when it comes to disciplinary considerations.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Taliban begins killing EMT/medics, we can now begin killing their bearded toweled medics...Is that ok?
    Just because others commit war crimes does not mean that the U.S. should engage in the commission of war crimes, otherwise the U.S. would lose the ability to distinguish itself from those who actively commit or rationalize the commission of war crimes.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Taliban begins killing EMT/medics, we can now begin killing their bearded toweled medics...Is that ok?
    How on earth could you possibly take what I said to mean that?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Taliban begins killing EMT/medics, we can now begin killing their bearded toweled medics...Is that ok?
    and the bigotry is exposed.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    these soldiers have no sense of honor or decency.
    ... and the horse you rode in on too.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't have the authority to judge these men. Only a courts martial, convened under the Uniform Code of Military Justice has that authority. They will be judged by a jury of their peers...which you are light years from being.
    You keep this **** up and I might start to like you.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Indeed, I thought we had more honor & decency than the terrorists & murderers.
    We could be crapping on the remains and stilll have more decency and honor than the terrorists.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    obviously. his son has been serving in that military for almost twenty years [/s]

    what some find objectionable is that he dares voice criticism where criticism is very much due. such as that photograph

    did we learn nothing from that tragedy called vietnam? we won every major battle - but lost the war. we do not win the hearts and minds of a people when we perpetrate a my lai upon them. neither do we win their support when we exhibit disrespect as is found in that photo

    those actions did nothing to quell the prospect that yet another resident will come to feel so ardently opposed to us that they would willingly give their life to take ours away. how does that outcome make us safer? how does motivating future suicide bombers advance our mission?
    I have no problem with him finding it objectionable. I find it objectionable. What I have a problem with is his hope for a maximum punishment for what amounts to hijinks.
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