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Thread: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    You stated it was troubling, and I'm asking you to clarify as to why.

    Tbh it's your call. Either you can explain why that is, or gloss over it.
    I take it you're going to avoid it, Thunder.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    What other conflict have we been involved in where that was not the case? Every combat volunteer knew what he was getting involved in, this is an undefined war with undefined enemies. They are not terrorists (unless you can show direct AQ connections, but AQ has little if any presence), they are not even enemy combatants any longer (at least those that are detained/captured).
    Undefined enemies? Our troops are fighting insurgents, whether a part of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, etc. If our soldiers aren't fighting enemy combatants, what are they doing there?

    But that's all irrelevant to the point. Our soldiers are fighting people who kill, torture, and dismember them. I can understand and sympathize with those soldiers who decide to have justice for their fallen comrades, regardless of what the higher-ups in clean suits think. War is hell, and bad things happen.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I take it you're going to avoid it, Thunder.
    no clarrification is necessary. I am troubled by you stance on this issue.

    its pretty clear.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no clarrification is necessary. I am troubled by you stance on this issue.

    its pretty clear.
    Yet you seem to refuse to clarify your "troubles."

    That's pretty unclear.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    You believe their goal was to kill themselves? You do not understand the enemy.

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    So, killing someone, for even legitimate purposes, is less offensive than posing in pictures with their dead body?

    If seeing the reality of war (dead rotting people) is to much for the feelings and taking pictures next to dead pieces of **** shows I have a poor ****ed up moral compass then I guess I'm one corrupt mofo. I personally don't give a ****Americans were dismembered in Iraq, American bodies were drug through streets in Somalia, Nick Berg had his head cut off? So ****'emI'm sorry, most people don't give a **** about this and are just showing a sense of outrage because that is what they think they should do.
    Dude, you missed the context so badly, your only purpose is to spout your rhetoric. You are falling into the same hole as others here, you want our rules of war to recede to the level of the enemy.

    Try figuring out what I was talking about if you really want a debate with me.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    A question I posed earlier, that to my knowledge has not been answered, was if your mother was fighting in Afghan and died, would you be ok with them posing her dead body and taking pictures to show it off for their buddies amusement?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Undefined enemies? Our troops are fighting insurgents, whether a part of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, etc. If our soldiers aren't fighting enemy combatants, what are they doing there?
    You have family members there, and you don't know what their mission is? It is to defeat AQ. How many AQ are left in Afghanistan? Less than 100...supposedly.

    But that's all irrelevant to the point. Our soldiers are fighting people who kill, torture, and dismember them. I can understand and sympathize with those soldiers who decide to have justice for their fallen comrades, regardless of what the higher-ups in clean suits think. War is hell, and bad things happen.
    It is irrelevant what the objective is? Is that really what you think? The point is that we have lost sight of what the objective is. We cannot stop the Taliban, I doubt the Afghan forces can defend themselves, and this quagmire has become a pointless exercise. If you think the troops are justified in sinking to this level of undisciplined conduct, then you don't have really any rationale for supporting this continuing folly.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You believe their goal was to kill themselves? You do not understand the enemy.

    Dude, you missed the context so badly, your only purpose is to spout your rhetoric. You are falling into the same hole as others here, you want our rules of war to recede to the level of the enemy.

    Try figuring out what I was talking about if you really want a debate with me.
    Lets go.....lets see what you have

    We nuked 150,000+ in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Burned them all to ****. All, without an apology.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Yet you seem to refuse to clarify your "troubles."

    That's pretty unclear.
    I am an American, who believes strongly in American values.....which does NOT include taking happy pictures next to the dismembered bodies of our enemies.

    clear enuff for ya?

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Lets go.....lets see what you have

    We nuked 150,000+ in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Burned them all to ****. All, without an apology.
    Yeah, I remember that same rhetoric from 2001. Not only do you not understand the deployment of enemy forces, you don't understand the concept of "war crimes".

    But hey, again....you got to go totally off context and used it to once again display your messed up rhetoric. You probably consider that a good job.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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