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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

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    in 2012, we refer to to them as African-Americans or black. Calling them "Colored", is considered racist.
    You calling my mother a racist? She uses, "colored", all the time.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    in 2012, we refer to to them as African-Americans or black. Calling them "Colored", is considered racist.
    No, it's not. That's a ridiculous statement. Neither is calling them "Negroes," although you might get some weird looks.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thunder was only partially correct.
    Would you clarify? What makes him partially correct?

    The extremists do want to kill as many of us as possible, and the extremist also believe they will have a reward in heaven for doing so. By blowing themselves up they can more effectively knock out the enemy and spread fear.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Would you clarify? What makes him partially correct?

    The extremists do want to kill as many of us as possible, and the extremist also believe they will have a reward in heaven for doing so. By blowing themselves up they can more effectively knock out the enemy and spread fear.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    in 2012, we refer to to them as African-Americans or black. Calling them "Colored", is considered racist.
    By whose standards?

    I am colored, and I don't take offense to it. There is nothing about that that implies racial superiority.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    No, it's not. That's a ridiculous statement. Neither is calling them "Negroes," although you might get some weird looks.
    FACT: many folks, especially if they are not of the older generation, refer to blacks as "Negroes" or "Colored", merely to be provocative & offensive. This is clearly what Apdst is doing....and its also not the first time he has refered to blacks using VERY offensive & hateful language.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You calling my mother a racist? She uses, "colored", all the time.
    how old is your mom?

    I bet she is in her 70s or more.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Back on topic, isn't it at least understandable that the soldiers did this?

    My brother-in-law was a soldier, and has no sympathy for what happens to the terrorists that killed his comrades.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    FACT: many folks, especially if they are not of the older generation, refer to blacks as "Negroes" or "Colored", merely to be provocative & offensive. This is clearly what Apdst is doing....and its also not the first time he has refered to blacks using VERY offensive & hateful language.
    This does not take away from the fact that using the word "colored" is not in and of itself, racist. And let's focus the discussion back onto the topic at hand, please.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Back on topic, isn't it at least understandable that the soldiers did this?

    My brother-in-law was a soldier, and has no sympathy for what happens to the terrorists that killed his comrades.
    Yes, as I and others have stated many times before.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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