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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    The "corpses" desecrated themselves by premature detonation. All the soldiers are actually guilty of is gathering up the pieces and having a picture taken with them.

    Seriously, it's one thing to hate the wars... I sure as hell hate the wars, and have been ardently against them since the beginning... and quite another to hate the soldiers. Some people seem to think if the former applies, the latter must also apply. That makes me sad.

    These are basically kids, who have lived through things that nobody should have to live through. And people here want to ruin their lives because they did what every soldier of ever war fought since cameras were invented has done. When I was in high school, one of my teachers showed us pictures he took in the Korean war. Pictures of American soldiers with enemy corpses.

    Being against the wars doesn't mean being against those who are tasked with fighting the wars, and suffering all that comes with that. I'm actually pretty sad about what I'm reading here, the complete lack of understanding of what these young men have gone through, all of their pain, their trauma, everything they've endured all swept away because of a picture. Ruin them for life? Really?

    That's really... words escape me.
    I don't hate soldiers, my son is nearing his 20 year mark and has been deployed to the middle east 4 times. I do have a problem though with those that dishonor their fellow soldiers and put them at greater risk and undermine the purpose of the mission.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My point is, moral high ground don't mean **** on the battlefield.

    You should be licking these guy's asses, because if not for them, your ass might be out there on that battlefield.
    I guess I'm just not as frightened of those that would deny us access to their resources as you seem to be.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    I think it's time to bring the troops home.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Ok , you like to brag about your service.


    Tell us where you served and what division?

    Its tropical, humid and hot and where ****loads of drugs and money go by....

    Its called, the big ditch by many

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Seriously, "respecting the dead"? These are morons who strapped explosives to their bodies and blew themselves up! When did they ever earn any respect?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is taking photographs of dead bodies desecration?
    Especially when these asswipes blowing themselves up apparently isn't.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I suppose some discussion is in order. The individual in question is a paper-pusher. He is a bureaucrat. He doesn't actually do anything of value. Those in the military do do things of value.

    Does this help?
    Not much since there is no guarantee that all troops are doing things of value and the person you are disparaging doesn't deserve if you are basing it on his employment.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    these soldiers have no sense of honor or decency.
    Because, you know... strapping on a bomb is such an honorable, decent thing to do.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because, you know... strapping on a bomb is such an honorable, decent thing to do.
    Is your point that US soldiers should be no more honorable than terrorists?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    "Today, every village, no matter how isolated, has a battery-powered radio and every day and every night someone listens to the BBS or VOA and learns the news. The Afghans are illiterate, but they are not naive. After 30 years of war they understand international politics. They understand war. They form their opinions by what they see, or hear about, happening in their country.

    And by now, every Afghan, no matter how isolated, will know that U.S. soldiers again have been mocking dead Afghans. U.S. soldiers have been disrespecting the dead.

    "What kind of men are these Americans that mock those who souls have gone to Paradise," every Afghan will ask. "Who are these barbarians who claim to have come to help us, to install what they call 'democracy,' this Western religion?"

    The most damaging part of the photos is the U.S. soldiers and what appears to be a translator, holding up the severed legs of suicide bombers, and laughing. In another photo, a handsome young soldier is grinning like a boy as a fellow soldier puts a severed hand on his shoulder. Everyone is laughing.

    The Taliban will not laugh, and neither will the millions of Afghans who see again and again that U.S. soldiers are treating Afghans with disrespect."

    "The U.S. can once again win all its battles, but it is slowly losing the war. It is losing the hearts and minds of the people it came to save from the Taliban. The U.S. is showing, no matter what the truth is, that it does not care about Afghans, and does not care about Islam.

    The Taliban will use this latest incident as they will go at night to every village and say, "Here is yet more proof that the U.S. is an insensitive infidel invader. It does not care about or understand Afghan culture, our culture. Come with us. We have God on our side."


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