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Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

Catawba said:
I like to think there is a difference between us and the terrorists treatment of people living and dead.
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People go to long lengths to justify their feelings... and the dead don't complain much.
 
Ockham said:
People go to long lengths to justify their feelings... and the dead don't complain much.
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but it does not take much imagination to imagine how their kin and countrymen would respond to that photo
 
washunut said:
I remember a trial, not any pictures.
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Then your memory is faulty:

My Lai photographer Ron Haeberle exposed a Vietnam massacre 40 years ago today in The Plain Dealer

"Forty years ago today, black-and-white photographs of slaughtered women, children and old men in a Vietnamese village shocked the world -- or that portion of the world willing to believe American soldiers could gun down unarmed peasants and leave them to die in streets and ditches."

My Lai photographer Ron Haeberle exposed a Vietnam massacre 40 years ago today in The Plain Dealer | cleveland.com
 
I don't condone their behavior, but it's certainly understandable, especially when you consider it was only 500 years ago that certain people had their decapitated heads stuck on pikes for the enemy to see.
 
Catawba said:
And violating international law as well which forbids “outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment,” and contains this provision specific to treatment of the dead:

International Humanitarian Law - First 1949 Geneva Convention
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Read up...

http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/FULL/380?
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Nationals of a State which is not bound by the Convention are not protected by it. Nationals of a neutral State who find themselves in the territory of a belligerent State, and nationals of a co-belligerent State, shall not be regarded as protected persons while the State of which they are nationals has normal diplomatic representation in the State in whose hands they are.
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Wake said:
I don't condone their behavior, but it's certainly understandable, especially when you consider it was only 500 years ago that certain people had their decapitated heads stuck on pikes for the enemy to see.
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would you understand it if Nazis took smiley photos next to the bodies of dismembered American soldiers?
 
Thunder said:
would you understand it if Nazis took smiley photos next to the bodies of dismembered American soldiers?
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I don't believe Americans are Nazis. Do you think Americans are Nazis, Thunder, and that the persecuted Jews are the same as the Taliban?

Please, elaborate.
 
Wake said:
I don't believe Americans are Nazis. Do you think Americans are Nazis, Thunder, and that the persecuted Jews are the same as the Taliban?....
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why are you bringing up persecuted Jews?

when did I suggest Americans are Nazis?

what are you talking about???????
 
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Thunder said:
why are you bringing up persecuted Jews?

when did I suggest Americans are Nazis?

what are you talking about???????
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I thought you had initially said the Jews. Odd.

Why do you compare these American soldiers to the Nazis? And the dismembered American soldiers in your hypothetical to the Taliban/Al Qaeda?

Our American soldiers are not Nazis, Thunder.
 
Catawba said:
Sure pisses off their countrymen however that we have been trying to win their hearts and minds:
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Meh... do we really care they're pissed off? We're leaving still on schedule....
 
Thunder said:
why are you bringing up persecuted Jews?

when did I suggest Americans are Nazis?

what are you talking about???????
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When? Why?...What?

You get confused because the Nazi's had snappy looking uniforms.:lol:

The Nazis were left wing. Socialists.
 
Wake said:
I thought you had initially said the Jews. Odd....
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that's clearly because you didn't care to actually read the post you responded to.

...Why do you compare these American soldiers to the Nazis?...
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I made no such comparison. I simply changed the parameters a little, to show the hypocrisy going on here.

...Our American soldiers are not Nazis, Thunder.
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I never said they were, Wake. Try reading my post next time.
 
Wake said:
I thought you had initially said the Jews. Odd.

Why do you compare these American soldiers to the Nazis? And the dismembered American soldiers in your hypothetical to the Taliban/Al Qaeda?

Our American soldiers are not Nazis, Thunder.
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Dick Durbin compared our soldiers at Gitmo to Nazis......it's a political template.
 
Thunder said:
that is a lie.

a pathetic, frequent, ignorant right-wing lie.
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Please counter or go back to the kitchen

Both Democratic Socialism and Social Democracies have their origins firmly rooted in Nazi economic policy. If you pick at them a little, most of our modern liberals will admit their long term goal is to reform America into a "Social Democracy".


Nazism came from the left, not the right.
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ric27 said:
...Both Democratic Socialism and Social Democracies have their origins firmly rooted in Nazi economic policy. If you pick at them a little, most of our modern liberals will admit their long term goal is to reform America into a "Social Democracy".


Nazism came from the left, not the right......
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utter and pathetic lies.

the Social Democratic Party of Germany is their oldest political party, older than Nazism and PERSECUTED by the Nazis, as were Communists, Socialists, Unionists, and other leftists.

by your pathetic logic, Republicans are Communists, since North Korea is called the "Democratic Peoples REPUBLIC of Korea".

oh, and Republicans are also Islamists, as Iran is actually the Islamic REPUBLIC of Iran.
 
Thunder said:
(1) that's clearly because you didn't care to actually read the post you responded to.



(2) I made no such comparison. I simply changed the parameters a little, to show the hypocrisy going on here.



(3) I never said they were, Wake. Try reading my post next time.
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(1) I disagree. You may have edited it, or it may have just been a mistake. I'll err on the side of saying it was a mistake to keep us on topic.

(2) Methinks you did make a comparison:

Real life incident: American soldiers deface the Taliban/Al Qaeda
Your hypothetical: Nazi soldiers deface [via "smiley photos"] American soldiers

You are indeed comparing real-life American soldiers and hypothetical Nazi soldiers by keeping one mutal factor: defacement. Furthermore, you compare real-life Taliban/Al Qaeda deceased to hypothetical American deceased. I don't think it's wise to compare our American soldiers with Nazis, and I don't think it's good to compare deceased Taliban/Al Qaeda with deceased American Soldiers.

(3) By making those connections, you create some sort of implication, as though our American soldiers and Nazis have anything of note to compare. It would be the same if I compared persecuted Jews in the Nazi era to kids bullied in America; what it boils down to is that it's a dishonest and to be frank absurd comparison.
 
American said:
Dick Durbin compared our soldiers at Gitmo to Nazis......it's a political template.
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I have no idea who Dick Durbin is but I think that's another malicious comparison on his part, imho.
 
ric27 said:
Please counter or go back to the kitchen

Both Democratic Socialism and Social Democracies have their origins firmly rooted in Nazi economic policy. If you pick at them a little, most of our modern liberals will admit their long term goal is to reform America into a "Social Democracy".


Nazism came from the left, not the right.
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Thunder said:
why, did you make me lunch?
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Moderator's Warning:
Thunder and ric, cease the personal attacks or you'll both have to make me a sandwich.
 
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Thunder said:
why, did you make me lunch?
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Nope. That doesn't work that way. First, you answer then you get a cookie

Counter my point....

Take out the uniforms, the German language and the genocide (for now) and you get the American left. Control of industry, schools, indoctrination of the youth, class warfare, confiscation of the property of the targeted class, etc. And do it all for the people.
 
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