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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And war was the wrong direction to go. It was too large, too bulky, too expensive, and too ineffective.
    I don't think war was the wrong way to go, I think that the way we did it was rushed and based both on American bloodlust and demands for revenge, plus the Bush administration realizing that it could push through personal agendas in the guise of fighting terrorism. Had we actually cared who we went to war with, instead of this ill-defined "war on terrorism" nonsense, had we waited until we actually had the facts instead of pretending we knew what we were talking about, things would have been much better. The whole "we're going to fight terrorism worldwide, no matter what" nonsense is just that.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    terrorism is a crime in most countries too.
    So, we try them in a court of law? That assumes they are criminals and not active participants in an war.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I do.

    And war was the wrong direction to go. It was too large, too bulky, too expensive, and too ineffective.
    We had already tried the law enforcement approach and it was a failure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    So, we try them in a court of law? That assumes they are criminals and not active participants in an war.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We had already tried the law enforcement approach and it was a failure.
    terrorists get tried & convicted all the time.

    its worked just fine before and it will work just fine with KSM.

    not wanting to arrest and try terrorists, suggests we might now have the evidence to prove he is a terrorist.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I do.

    And war was the wrong direction to go. It was too large, too bulky, too expensive, and too ineffective.
    I think that unfortunately, there were a lot of outcomes that our political and military leaders just didn't think of. I don't mean that as a criticism, I don't know that anyone could have accurately foreseen the stuff that has happened. Hindsight says that it sure would be nice if we could have avoided the mess we're in now. On the other hand, what ops might have been carried out in the US when Zarqawi and the non-Afghan Al-Quaeda weren't occupied in Iraq.

    With Iraq's money and the crap they moved to Syria still available for use? A cluster**** sandwich any way you look at it.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    terrorists get tried & convicted all the time.

    its worked just fine before and it will work just fine with KSM.

    not wanting to arrest and try terrorists, suggests we might now have the evidence to prove he is a terrorist.
    Yeah, it worked great before 9/11. Oh, wait...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    terrorists get tried & convicted all the time.

    its worked just fine before and it will work just fine with KSM.

    not wanting to arrest and try terrorists, suggests we might now have the evidence to prove he is a terrorist.
    Putting terrorists in jail accomplishes nothing. There is no deterrent factor and they win by being allowed to speak at trial.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, it worked great before 9/11. Oh, wait...
    Clinton's reason for turning Sudan down when they offered us Osama Bin Laden's head on a platter in the late 90's?

    He wasn't sure the DoJ had enough evidence for a conviction at trial.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    A serious question to all..


    I've asked this question many times, including to lawyers: If we had Bin Laden in custody right now, of what crime could he be tried and convicted in a US Court?

    Anyone?

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I do.

    And war was the wrong direction to go. It was too large, too bulky, too expensive, and too ineffective.
    It's the way we did it that was stupid.

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