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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

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    did the USA recognize the Taliban as the legitimate and rightful rulers of Afghanistan?

    the Taliban were no more the rightful rulers of Afghanistan than the Vichy govt. was the rightful rulers of France.
    the US definitely recognized that the Taliban were in charge of Afghanistan. We aren't, after all, quite that blind. We didn't maintain an embassy there or extend them diplomatic niceties - nor should we have.

    As for who our preferred outside government was... well, in France we put DeGaulle into power, and in Afghanistan we went with Hamid Karzai. Both of whom later proved to be extremely problematic allies, though a definite improvement over the people we had brought them in to replace.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    did the USA recognize the Taliban as the legitimate and rightful rulers of Afghanistan?

    the Taliban were no more the rightful rulers of Afghanistan than the Vichy govt. was the rightful rulers of France.
    If that's what you think than you are....well, you know already.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If that's what you think than you are....well, you know already.
    barely any nations recognized the Taliban as the legit. rulers of Afghanistan.

    the USA certainly didn't and neither did the UN.

    that's why we didn't attack Afghanistan, only the illegitimate Taiban govt.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the US definitely recognized that the Taliban were in charge of Afghanistan. We aren't, after all, quite that blind.....
    just as we recognized that the Vichy govt. ruled southern France. Indeed, we are not blind.

    That didn't stop us from invading & liberating France from Nazi & Vichy rule.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    We attacked France.....
    no, we LIBERATED France from illegitimate Nazi & Vichy rule.

    why are you validating their illegal rule of France?

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    barely any nations recognized the Taliban as the legit. rulers of Afghanistan.

    the USA certainly didn't and neither did the UN.

    that's why we didn't attack Afghanistan, only the illegitimate Taiban govt.


    so the only thing we need to do to make sure that it's hunky dory for us to invade Iran would be for us to say "we no longer recognize the legitimacy of the Ayatollocracy"?


    what utter crap. Whether or not we recognized the legitimacy of the ruling government is utterly irrelevant to whether or not what we did is classified as an attack.

    That didn't stop us from invading & liberating France from Nazi & Vichy rule.
    yeah? not a few French soldiers seemed to not want to be 'liberated'.





    however, I am enjoying your conversion to NeoConservatism.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    barely any nations recognized the Taliban as the legit. rulers of Afghanistan.

    the USA certainly didn't and neither did the UN.

    that's why we didn't attack Afghanistan, only the illegitimate Taiban govt.
    Recognizing a country is a diplomatic tool. It doesn't mean that that country doesn't exist. If the Taliban was not the govt of afghanistan, then who was?
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah? not a few French soldiers seemed to not want to be 'liberated'.
    Just like lots of Afghanis didn't want to be liberated. That's why the second we left to fight the pointless war in Iraq, the Taliban came back in. A good portion of the Afghanis *WANT* the Taliban! You cannot force democracy on anyone if they don't want it for themselves.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Recognizing a country is a diplomatic tool. It doesn't mean that that country doesn't exist. If the Taliban was not the govt of afghanistan, then who was?
    The Taliban ruled Afghanistan, but their rule was illegal, illegitimate, and recognized by only three states.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post


    so the only thing we need to do to make sure that it's hunky dory for us to invade Iran would be for us to say "we no longer recognize the legitimacy of the Ayatollocracy"?


    what utter crap....
    yes, your dishonest mischaracterization of my comments, is utter crap.

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