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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Exactly. War is not a game. War is about killing the enemy until they give up the fight. It is not humanitarian, not about winning hearts and minds, not about spreading democracy. War is bloody, it is about killing. Had the US not dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, more of our troops would have died, no doubt about it.
    Actually war is not about death. Its about the minds of the parties in play. In many ways it is a game of chess.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Actually war is not about death. Its about the minds of the parties in play. In many ways it is a game of chess.
    War is about winning most of the time. Of course, lots of countries would love to be invaded by the U.S. and lose, just to get all of the freebies that we hand out at taxpayer expense to "rebuild" them, almost always to a level far above where they started out.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Actually war is not about death. Its about the minds of the parties in play. In many ways it is a game of chess.
    War with rules is by definition... a sport. Many don't play that ****.


    I really don't give a **** about the strategic implications of anything other than identifying their replacements for the next strike. They are combatants - that should be a picture of a smoking hole.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    War with rules is by definition... a sport. Many don't play that ****.

    I really don't give a **** about the strategic implications of anything other than identifying their replacements for the next strike. They are combatants - that should be a picture of a smoking hole.
    Agreed. I never understood rules with warfare. You're out shooting the enemy, but you have to follow these rules too? Seems rather absurd. If you're out trying to be humane, stop shooting the other side! Otherwise, just let one side rack up the body count until the other side gives up. This isn't some contest, it's war.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    War is about winning most of the time. Of course, lots of countries would love to be invaded by the U.S. and lose, just to get all of the freebies that we hand out at taxpayer expense to "rebuild" them, almost always to a level far above where they started out.
    Like usual you miss the point. You can't win a war with nothing in mind except winning unless you have massive power and resources. You have to put up a strategy that can win the war as quickly as possible and this involves that the goal of your strategy is making you opponent think they can't win and give up. War is a mental exercise, pure and simple.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    We are the USA.

    we take prisoners if the enemy surrenders.

    no, we do not KILL all of the enemy regardless.


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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Agreed. I never understood rules with warfare. You're out shooting the enemy, but you have to follow these rules too? Seems rather absurd. If you're out trying to be humane, stop shooting the other side! Otherwise, just let one side rack up the body count until the other side gives up. This isn't some contest, it's war.
    If I recall my history correctly, which may or may not be the case, then one of the reasons the British colonies in America won that little war was that the British wanted to play by rules that they had agreed upon, but the colonials didn't.

    Something about marching across a field in plain view vs. hiding behind trees and waiting until the enemy got close enough to shoot.

    Could it be that "rules of warfare" is an oxymoron?

    or maybe just a bad idea.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If I recall my history correctly, which may or may not be the case, then one of the reasons the British colonies in America won that little war was that the British wanted to play by rules that they had agreed upon, but the colonials didn't.

    Something about marching across a field in plain view vs. hiding behind trees and waiting until the enemy got close enough to shoot.

    Could it be that "rules of warfare" is an oxymoron?

    or maybe just a bad idea.
    Rules of war has always been a stupid idea.

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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Like usual you miss the point. You can't win a war with nothing in mind except winning unless you have massive power and resources. You have to put up a strategy that can win the war as quickly as possible and this involves that the goal of your strategy is making you opponent think they can't win and give up. War is a mental exercise, pure and simple.
    Nah, it involves the strong beating up on the weak. You know, like the U.S. does. We never attack anyone who actually might be able to hurt us.
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    Re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If I recall my history correctly, which may or may not be the case, then one of the reasons the British colonies in America won that little war was that the British wanted to play by rules that they had agreed upon, but the colonials didn't.

    Something about marching across a field in plain view vs. hiding behind trees and waiting until the enemy got close enough to shoot.

    Could it be that "rules of warfare" is an oxymoron?

    or maybe just a bad idea.
    I'm not arguing that British stupidity played a good part in the American victory, but seriously, if you were a British soldier at that time, would you just stand there and get gunned down because that's "how it's supposed to be done"? I know I wouldn't.
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