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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Depends on a number of factors.

    Was this the soldiers first offense? Then no.
    Was this done numerous times, but not before he was offered counseling? Then no.
    Was this done numerous times, and the soldier has been offered and passed alcohol counseling? Then yes.
    did the underage drinking result in a felony or other charge? Then yes.
    If it resulted in another felony, then he would be charged with that other felony. I asked, does drinking under age merit a dishonorable discharge?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    According to SOME conservatives on this board, The United States because to them Obama is a dictator
    Cute, care to give an honest answer?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's OK. Boo answered it for him anyway.


    Actually, no he didn't...he attempted to mask a milquetoast pile of mush that didn't answer anything, and only spoke of the possibilities of such as an answer. That is avoidance, not answering anything.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Actually, no he didn't...he attempted to mask a milquetoast pile of mush that didn't answer anything, and only spoke of the possibilities of such as an answer. That is avoidance, not answering anything.

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    milquetoast....perfect description, thank you.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If it resulted in another felony, then he would be charged with that other felony. I asked, does drinking under age merit a dishonorable discharge?
    Even if you take away the last one, which is still valid, I answered your question.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Actually, no he didn't...he attempted to mask a milquetoast pile of mush that didn't answer anything, and only spoke of the possibilities of such as an answer. That is avoidance, not answering anything.

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    That's not true. A few specific examples are there.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Depends on a number of factors.

    Was this the soldiers first offense? Then no.
    Was this done numerous times, but not before he was offered counseling? Then no.
    Was this done numerous times, and the soldier has been offered and passed alcohol counseling? Then yes.
    did the underage drinking result in a felony or other charge? Then yes.
    How many times is numerous? 2, 3, 12?

    Dishonorable Discharge carries the same stigma's in society in terms of gaining employment as parole does. You want to do that to a kid who makes a mistake?

    I understand that a person in repeat defiance of regulation, and rules may not be a fit for the Military, but you want to ruin the rest of their lives?

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Even if you take away the last one, which is still valid, I answered your question.
    the average 19 year old in the Navy is entrusted with responsibilities that average 40 year old in the Civilian world could not expect to see. For example, 19 year old plane captains on an aircraft carrier or naval airstation are entrusted with the full responsibility of aircraft valued in the millions...even billions. These sailors often move these aricraft around the flight deck or airfield with pilot and crew in the plane. Would you place your life in the hands of a hungover 19 year old?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's not true. A few specific examples are there.
    Joe, Joe, Joe....Answer my specific question please.


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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Run off to another country? Why did he do that?
    "Karzai's family were strong supporters of Zahir Shah, the last king of Afghanistan."

    "When Najibullah's Soviet-backed government collapsed in 1992, the Peshawar Accords agreed upon by the Afghan political parties established the Islamic State of Afghanistan and appointed an interim government to be followed by general elections. Karzai accompanied the first mujahideen leaders into Kabul in 1992 following the Soviet withdrawal.[10] He served as Deputy Foreign Minister in the government of Burhanuddin Rabbani. Karzai was, however, arrested by Mohammad Fahim (Karzai's current Vice President) on charges of spying for Gulbuddin Hekmatyar in what Karzai claimed was an effort to mediate between Hekmatyar's militia and the Islamic State. When he was released Karzai fled from Kabul in a vehicle provided by Hekmatyar and driven by Gul Rahman.[12]"

    Hamid Karzai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Do you have a problem with South Korea? I'll ask you for the 8th time, which Democracy has ditched democracy for dictatorship?
    I don't believe in forcing our form of government on other countries that we have protect from that time on. I think it would have made more sense for there not to be a North Korea and South Korea at each others throats, that we helped enable and still do to this day.

    And I've told you already in answer to your question, the corrupt "democracies" we have created that still require our protection to exist, do not impress me.


    Do you think we should militarily involve ourselves in every country's civil war to make sure they choose democracy as their form of government? We currently spend almost as much on the military as the rest of the world combined. Most of our debt is due to excessive military spending. How many more trillions and thousands of lives are we to sacrifice to try to force other countries to govern themselves as we do?
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