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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Congress has some specific ideas...

    " ...The US Military Commissions Act (2006), passed by Congress following the Supreme Court’s decision in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld in 2006, amends Title 10 of the United States Code as follows:
    § 950v. Crimes triable by military commissions

    (b) OFFENSES.—The following offenses shall be triable by military commission under this chapter at any time without limitation:

    (20) INTENTIONALLY MISTREATING A DEAD BODY.—Any person subject to this chapter who intentionally mistreats the body of a dead person, without justification by legitimate military necessity, shall be punished as a military commission under this chapter may direct... "
    And...what are the proscribed punishments if found guilty of that offense in Courts Martial?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's your strawman. My point is that actions have consequences, if a person hasn't learned that before entering the military, they are long overdue.
    Yes, actions have consequences, but not all wrong actions in the military should be a court martial and then dishonorable discharge. Like the pissing incident these soldiers made a mistake. Corrective action should be given through NJP and these soldiers should continue on with their careers. Not every mistake a soldier makes should result in dishonorable discharge.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Given your cartoon you posted in the other thread outright lying about the military, forgive me if i call "bull****".

    Yes the administration needs to condem these actions but you would ruin thier lives over a photograph.....
    The distinction you have failed to grasp is that I support the military for defense, ONLY! I don't believe in putting troops, of whom my son is one, in harms way unnecessarily.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Are you under the impression that there is only one punishment suitable for military morons?
    The punishment will be decided by the military who have condemned these actions. That is good enough for me.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You can see the future now? Tell me, which Democracy once established has returned to dictatorship? I dare ya to finally answer this question.
    Sometimes I think ours is headed that direction.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, actions have consequences, but not all wrong actions in the military should be a court martial and then dishonorable discharge. Like the pissing incident these soldiers made a mistake. Corrective action should be given through NJP and these soldiers should continue on with their careers. Not every mistake a soldier makes should result in dishonorable discharge.
    I agree that every misdeed should not result in dd, but I think this certainly merits it IMO, as it puts other soldiers and the mission at risk.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't a thing about better or worse off. I said, they didn't ask us. And they didn't. And frankly, wouldn't like someone else bring their standards to us, who could say to their country that helped us to be free from our demons, telling us what was best for us. So, the comment has nothing to do with I think is actually better for them. I ,erely point out they did not ask for us.

    No, they didn't...Do you know why we are there?

    Again, whihc has nothing to do with it. We know it hurts the mission.



    True. Won't be the last either. But that doesn't make it any less stupid.


    Yes, they should, all of them, just as they should know past statements are on tape. But, that doesn't make them any less stupid, or hurt the misison any less.

    I wasn't aware that I said differently?


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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I agree that every misdeed should not result in dd, but I think this certainly merits it IMO, as it puts other soldiers and the mission at risk.
    Are you ignoring that the military has stated that they will pursue this with criminal charges? I've posted it twice now.


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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You can see the future now? Tell me, which Democracy once established has returned to dictatorship? I dare ya to finally answer this question.
    I thought that was a good question, so I did a search:

    From Democracy to Dictatorship

    From Democracy to Dictatorship — The American Magazine

    Historically speaking, the transition from democracy to dictatorship has appeared in various forms, including military coup, civil war, election tampering and ‘emergency’ situations requiring ‘special’ powers . . .

    Why Democracies evolve into Dictatorships

    Democratization (or democratisation) is the transition to a more democratic political regime. It may be the transition from an authoritarian regime to a full democracy, a transition from an authoritarian political system to a semi-democracy or transition from a semi-authoritarian political system to a democratic political system. The outcome may be consolidated (as it was for example in the United Kingdom) or democratization may face frequent reversals (as it has faced for example in Argentina).

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Sometimes I think ours is headed that direction.
    Yeah, that wasn't the question mac asked either.


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