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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, they should be dishonorably discharged for putting their fellow soldiers and mission at risk. Without severe consequences for their actions, the behavior will be repeated in the future.

    Yeah but you hate the military..... So.....



    Again, you would ruin the rest of thier lives, over a picture.....

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, they should be dishonorably discharged for putting their fellow soldiers and mission at risk. Without severe consequences for their actions, the behavior will be repeated in the future.
    Because the average soldier is a moron and needs the example of exceptionally harsh punishment to keep him/her in line?
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Really? cuz, I don't see too much outcry about it, after all, you do realize that this is a three year old incident right? Where is the mobs burning the flag? chanting death to America over this? Or, even broadcast nightly on the news of the diplomatic kerfuffle? You know why you won't be able to cite one? Because there isn't any.


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    "Afghan President Hamid Karzai has condemned the newly revealed photographs showing US soldiers posing with the remains of three suicide bombers, calling the pictures "disgusting."

    "It is such a disgusting act to take photos with body parts and then share it with others," he said, the Los Angeles Times reported.

    Karzai argued that a quick exit of Western troops from his country is the only way to prevent a recurrence of "painful experiences" like those of the American soldiers posing with body parts of insurgents."

    Afghanistan Soldier Photos: Karzai calls pictures of US troops 'disgusting'
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You consider the Afghans, who the Military has been trying to win their hearts and minds, to be terrorist scum???
    You seem to know a lot about what the average Afghan thinks about...
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    My point is as it always has been that this, and the prvious pissing incident, can be damaging to our relationship with a country that we are trying to convince we are acting honorable towards.

    And I think if the entirety of the Afghan people that are now free from the shoe of the Taliban think that the three soldiers involved represent the entirety of the US military in that action, then they are just plain as stupid as those trying to paint the entire military as war criminals in here. Isolated incidents are just that, and are dealt with by the military.

    That is why I maintain it is important to instill in our military members the importance that an incident WE may not think is disrespectful could be seen that way to our allies.
    Oh, sensitivity training...Great...From what I know we already do that, how much more? daily? weekly? monthly? oooh, oooh, I got it, why not get the Afghan govt. to allow us the Kabul town square, and tell them to assemble the town at 2:00 P.M., then we can pluck these soldiers out of where ever they are at the moment three years later, tie them to a poll that we construct, and publicly lash them until they pass out while playing apologies to the people, and Allah for offending them THREE YEARS AGO!

    I don't think I have said anything out of line or that is not factually correct in that regard.
    No, but what you say you want is already being done...From the LATimes article in the OP

    The Army launched a criminal investigation after the Los Angeles Times showed officials copies of the photos, which recently were given to the paper by a soldier from the division.

    "It is a violation of Army standards to pose with corpses for photographs outside of officially sanctioned purposes," said George Wright, an Army spokesman. "Such actions fall short of what we expect of our uniformed service members in deployed areas."

    Wright said that after the investigation, the Army would "take appropriate action" against those involved. Most of the soldiers in the photos have been identified, said Lt. Col. Margaret Kageleiry, an Army spokeswoman.
    Oh, and the little weasel paratrooper that was so courageous as to send these pics to the Times anonymously, what a stand up guy.

    The members of our military involved in these incidents should be corrected with NJP and then continue on with their careers better educated in not filming themselves doing dumb things.
    A criminal investigation is underway.


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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep, and some of the Afghan citizens that are not affiliated with the Taliban may think that. It wouldn't be the first time America has shed blood for a country only to have deplorable things said about that sacrifice as they enjoy life out from under the thumb of totalitarianism....So, what's your point? That there are dumb asses everywhere, including in our own Military, or in Afghanistan? No argument there. But, if you are trying to broad brush an entire society into the thoughts of some of the sympathetic to our enemies, or broad brush our Military into that of a few dumb asses that were out of control three damned years ago for God's sake, then you have no point other than to just criticize from the comfort of your home, safe, thousands of miles away.

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    Just one comment, no one in Afghanistan asked anyone to come over. So, I think it is just a little silly to expect graditude.

    The only other things is that we should be able to admit this hurts the mission, of winning hearts and minds. We should all be able to agree it was stupid. We should all no by now that anything put out there will be seen.

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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Afghan President Hamid Karzai has condemned the newly revealed photographs showing US soldiers posing with the remains of three suicide bombers, calling the pictures "disgusting."

    "It is such a disgusting act to take photos with body parts and then share it with others," he said, the Los Angeles Times reported.

    Karzai argued that a quick exit of Western troops from his country is the only way to prevent a recurrence of "painful experiences" like those of the American soldiers posing with body parts of insurgents."

    Afghanistan Soldier Photos: Karzai calls pictures of US troops 'disgusting'

    Oh come on.... What's he going to say? 'They are great guys'? 'Yeah, I saw that before, no big deal'?


    Don't you have anything better than that to respond?


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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I thoroughly "get it", Cat, and I am relatively certain that Democracy will remain. Funny thing, Democracy, it's infectious....

    Only when its fought for by the people, not when it is forced on them at the end of a gun.

    "Meeting with relatives of the massacre victims, Mr. Karzai said, “There are two demons in our country now,” clearly referring to the United States and the Taliban."

    Hamid Karzai News - The New York Times
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Yeah but you hate the military..... So.....
    Quite the contrary, I concur with the US Military in their condemnation of these actions.
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    re: Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans[W:1146]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only when its fought for by the people, not when it is forced on them at the end of a gun.

    "Meeting with relatives of the massacre victims, Mr. Karzai said, “There are two demons in our country now,” clearly referring to the United States and the Taliban."

    Hamid Karzai News - The New York Times
    So why are they trying to keep us there? Why are you avoiding my question? Which country has ditched Democracy?

    edit: Funny...you denounce Karzai when it suits you, but quote him when it suits you....What would you call that?
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