Last edited by Gie; 04-18-12 at 07:45 PM.
Last edited by Gie; 04-18-12 at 08:05 PM.
Your stance is pure political bs. Guess Janet N. should be ashamed to require us to show a ID to fly. Why not just sign a paper saying I am who I said I was? What is the big deal?
"I can explain it to you but, I can't understand it for you"
Regardless, to identify oneself as liberal is as to hang a sign on oneself announcing "I am a moron". It works only because our society enables so many morons, and as thus, stupidity is allowed to survive beyond a normal shelf-life as experienced by our Founders. They were very smart men, but they under-estimated the largesse of their fellow man.
Last edited by Gie; 04-18-12 at 08:26 PM.
Nor does it denote someones actual beliefs, because a liberal in 1850, is different to a liberal in 1950, is different to a conservative in Canada, is different to a conservative in England etc.
And it is true that so called "conservatives" like you have tried to turn liberal into a dirty word.
If one is to stick to what those words mean. Conservative is about maintaining the status quo, and liberal is about challenging that status quo.
In that case Liberals ended slavery.
Liberals got women the right to vote.
Liberals got African Americans the right to vote.
Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly citizens out of poverty.
Liberals ended segregation.
Liberals passed the civil rights act, the voting rights act, the clean water act, the clean air act.
Liberals created medicare.
What did the conservatives of their day do? They opposed every single one of those things.
Now if you've actually been paying attention to what I've been saying, I'm not trying to say Conservatives of today want slavery again, what I'm trying to say is these terms are relative to the time, and place we are in. So when you try to hurl that word around "liberal" as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from.
It won't work.
The overriding concept for cons is authoritarianism, it is the basis of their beliefs. A male dominated structure where the dominate position is not questioned but where the roles of leader and follower are totally understood and abided by. It is backed by social darwinism and a militant, paranoid sense of fear that feeds itself and leads to self destruction.