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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I'm gobsmacked. This is the first time in my life that I've heard that federal law says non-citizens can vote.
    That's not what federal law says. Try reading the actual words.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

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    No.... Democrats have manufactured the phony excuse that republicans are trying to use voter ID laws to suppress Democratic voter turnout, so they can squash Republican efforts to protect the integrity of the American electoral process and continue to cheat.
    Right, great point. Democrats don't want fair elections.

    As mentioned countless times in these threads, there is virtually ZERO evidence that voter impersonation is an issue.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Right, great point. Democrats don't want fair elections.

    As mentioned countless times in these threads, there is virtually ZERO evidence that voter impersonation is an issue.
    Well, Liberal Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens seems to think there have been ample examples of voter related fraud in our country's history, that more than justify requiring a legal ID to vote... But what does he, or the other 5 Justices that agreed with him, know about the law anyway??

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Well, Liberal Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens seems to think there have been ample examples of voter related fraud in our country's history, that more than justify requiring a legal ID to vote... But what does he, or the other 5 Justices that agreed with him, know about the law anyway??
    Got a link?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I think there have been at least half a dozen threads on this topic, but the bottom line is that most of the people who lack photo IDs just so happen to be in the demographics that normally vote Democratic (lower income, minorities, students).

    So there is virtually no evidence that voter impersonation is a problem, but there is plenty of evidence that voter ID laws reduce primarily Democratic voter turnout. 2 + 2 = ?
    This claim is so phoney. The only ones who lack ID are the one's who are not who they are pretending to be. Further, where most voter fraud occurs, the fix is already in. In precincts that are already high Democrat, run by Democrats, and where fraud is often encouraged. We see it in the poor communities, where folks are all on entitlements, bought and paid for, but we also see it with voting involving college students, who sure as **** are not poor. But they are Democrats !

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    This claim is so phoney. The only ones who lack ID are the one's who are not who they are pretending to be.
    That is such an idiotic statement it beggars the mind.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That is such an idiotic statement it beggars the mind.
    It was bullseye accurate. As was the rest of my post.

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    My feeling is that if someone so motivated to vote that he or she would risk imprisonment for perjury and voter fraud, and/or deportation ... they're probably a lot more patriotic than most actual Americans.
    That is one idiotic statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That is such an idiotic statement it beggars the mind.
    Illegal immigrants who vote in elections, any of them, are felons who are in this country illegally. So we let them vote to advance their illegal agenda? That's just bat**** insane.
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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Got a link?
    Here is some of what he said:


    It remains true, however, that flagrant examples
    of such fraud in other parts of the country have been
    documented throughout this Nation’s history by respected
    historians and journalists,11 that occasional examples have
    surfaced in recent years,12 and that Indiana’s own experi-
    ence with fraudulent voting in the 2003 Democratic primary
    for East Chicago Mayor13—though perpetrated using
    absentee ballots and not in-person fraud—demonstrate
    that not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it
    could affect the outcome of a close election.



    http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content...8/04/07-21.pdf

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That is one idiotic statement.



    Illegal immigrants who vote in elections, any of them, are felons who are in this country illegally. So we let them vote to advance their illegal agenda? That's just bat**** insane.
    Can you point to even one case where it was proven that an illegal alien voted?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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