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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Oh I must have missed where he brought up irrelevant incidents from the 70's. Can you point me to that? I missed it.
    Do you have anything else to say on the topic? Otherwise you might just run along.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its amazing-we are constantly told how smart democrat voters are and how stupid republican voters tend to be yet the deems are the ones who cannot figure out how to get an id. In all fairness, the dem party is a schizo bunch, small number of loud mouthed elites pretending to speak for the interests of millions of low wattage or dependent pawns but still its funny and let truth be told, people too stupid to have or need an ID are ones who really aren't people able to make an informed decision
    And there you have the right wind ideology in a nutshell -- if they deem you as having failed to meet their standards, then you deserve no rights (to vote, in this instance).

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    So, you're saying that the world is flat. Interesting. . . .

    However, you have correctly illustrated the major fault in your right wing brethrens' argument: namely, that there is no need to prove voter fraud because common sense tells them that it is happening. Which is exact same fault that I was pointing out, but perhaps in an insufficient number of monosyllabic words.
    Exactly. This perfectly encapsulates the "well duh"-it-just-makes-sense argument from the right. In truth, however, what may appear to make sense on the surface often does not make sense when you look below the surface.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude, replying to AdamT View Post
    what idiocy coming from a supporter and perhaps paid activist for the party that brought us the civil war, Pearl Harbor, Korean war, Vietnam war, the Iranian hostage fiasco, the new deal rape of the constitution, Jimmy carter and Obama
    Wow. The irony . . . . . .

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Do you have anything else to say on the topic? Otherwise you might just run along.
    Does that mean you are not going to quote where he did what you said he did?
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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Exactly. This perfectly encapsulates the "well duh"-it-just-makes-sense argument from the right. In truth, however, what may appear to make sense on the surface often does not make sense when you look below the surface.
    I have come to the conclusion that the GOP is not interested in common sense. They, and their leaders, simply say too much stupid stuff (like Mitch McConnell pontificating about the price of gasoline doubling under Obama)... only a moron or a party fanatic could swallow such stuff, and the leaders are bound to know that, so they are quite simply propagandists who knowingly have no intention of 'making sense'.

    David Byrne even wrote a song/album/movie about it




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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I have come to the conclusion that the GOP is not interested in common sense. They, and their leaders, simply say too much stupid stuff (like Mitch McConnell pontificating about the price of gasoline doubling under Obama)... only a moron or a party fanatic could swallow such stuff, and the leaders are bound to know that, so they are quite simply propagandists who knowingly have no intention of 'making sense'.

    David Byrne even wrote a song/album/movie about it



    people on this site tend to be far more informed than the average voter, who's every day concerns are what they care about. also people tend to validate data on trust over logic (again avg voter) so stuff not making sense doesn't matter because if they trust the source than the info is taken at face value.

    so yeah, smart politics has figured this flaw in humanity out and exploits it.

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Does that mean you are not going to quote where he did what you said he did?
    It means that you should run along if you don't have anything to say on the thread topic. Was I unclear about that?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It means that you should run along if you don't have anything to say on the thread topic. Was I unclear about that?
    I'll take that as you cannot support your own statement once again. You brought it off topic talking about the Iran Contra and Watergate. Stop making stupid comments if you dont want to discuss them.
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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

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