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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Appeals court upholds Arizona's voter ID requirement | Fox News

    Looks like the case was heard EN BANC meaning all the judges heard the case rather than the normal panel of 3 judges:

    A 12-member panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals says in a ruling Tuesday that there was evidence Arizona has racially polarized voting and a history of discrimination against Latinos.
    But the court concluded that no proof was offered to show that the ID requirement gave Latinos fewer opportunities to vote.
    The court, however, found that the federal National Voter Registration Act trumps another section of the Arizona law that requires people to prove their citizenship in order to vote.

    Caveat-I am guessing on this since I don't know off the top how many judges are on the 9th Circuit

    second Caveat-the Ninth circuit is the most overruled Circuit in the USA by the Supremes
    I'm appalled that, according to Federal law, one doesn't even have to prove citizenship in order to vote. I hadn't thought about it, but it's absolutely ludicrous. W.T.F.?
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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Indeed, Maggie, as I noted in my first post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    [...] In any event, the case is interesting since proof of citizenship is often the driving factor behind those supporting the ALEC/GOP efforts to impose state photo ID requirements across the nation (that pesky illegal alien vote, or perhaps just illegal votes by aliens -- E.T., phone in your ID).

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm appalled that, according to Federal law, one doesn't even have to prove citizenship in order to vote. I hadn't thought about it, but it's absolutely ludicrous. W.T.F.?
    My feeling is that if someone so motivated to vote that he or she would risk imprisonment for perjury and voter fraud, and/or deportation ... they're probably a lot more patriotic than most actual Americans.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    indeed, you gotta respect a guy or gal who is soo determined to vote, that he would risk going to prison to do it.

    ...meanwhile, many Americans whine & bitch about govt. but don't have the integrity to vote.

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    indeed, you gotta respect a guy or gal who is soo determined to vote, that he would risk going to prison to do it.

    ...meanwhile, many Americans whine & bitch about govt. but don't have the integrity to vote.
    Why on earth would you respect a lazy piece of **** who comes here illegally, becomes an unwanted burden on society, then disrespects our country by further violating our laws and tries disrupt our political system?
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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Why on earth would you respect a lazy piece of **** who comes here illegally, becomes an unwanted burden on society, then disrespects our country by further violating our laws and tries disrupt our political system?
    Wow, you sure packed in a lot of bigoted assumptions in one short sentence.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Wow, you sure packed in a lot of bigoted assumptions in one short sentence.
    They aren't assumptions and its not bigotry. They are criminals.
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    Yeah, there is absolutely no reason for voter ID.
    If it sounds like Marx and acts like Stalin...it must be Obama

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    My feeling is that if someone so motivated to vote that he or she would risk imprisonment for perjury and voter fraud, and/or deportation ... they're probably a lot more patriotic than most actual Americans.
    We've seen a half dozen cases of voter fraud prosecuted in the last few months.

    I saw nothing suggesting patriotism in any of those cases. Can you point some out for me ?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    They aren't assumptions and its not bigotry. They are criminals.
    Au contraire -- they are bigoted assumptions....

    Why on earth would you respect a lazy piece of ****
    Your bigoted assumption being that all undocumented aliens are lazy, and pieces of ****.
    I suggest you spend a couple months picking fruit in the blazing sun before you call these people lazy.

    becomes an unwanted burden on society
    Another bigoted assumption. Obviously many undocumented aliens contribute more to our society than they take from it.

    disrespects our country by further violating our laws and tries disrupt our political system
    Another bigoted assumption. I can hardly think of a greater sign of respect for our democratic system than risking prison and deportation in order to cast a statistically meaningless vote. Lord knows there are enough legal Americans who aren't willing to risk missing Oprah to exercise their privilege.
    Last edited by AdamT; 04-18-12 at 01:01 PM.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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