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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Dumb de dumb....

    Do you have any response to my criticism of the Heritage Foundation article you posted, or are you planning to continute posting nothing but simpleminded ad hominem to divert attention from your pathetic source?
    Know how to keep a simpleminded ad hominem fartist in suspense?

    I'll tell you tomorrow.

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Know how to keep a simpleminded ad hominem fartist in suspense?

    I'll tell you tomorrow.
    Translation: PUNT

    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Looks like the peanut gallery is filling up. What Maggie wrote was a pure tautology (ID laws are good because ... IT'S OBVIOUS!). Try to come up with something worth reading.
    Looks to be more legit than your reasons against that have been proven to be false. Studies are all well and good but when the evidence of actual voting tallies shows the opposite, Im going to go with reality rather than an academic conjecturing hes not a political puppet parroting party talking points.

    Studies---theory.
    Voting records---proof.

    Which are you going to believe?

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Translation: PUNT

    Yes I and several others here certainly have punted or kicked your hackish posts right out of the stadium. Can't say it was much of hard chore either.

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Yes I and several others here certainly have punted or kicked your hackish posts right out of the stadium. Can't say it was much of hard chore either.
    Still diverting with useless ad hominem. If it wasn't for your punting ability you'd have no game at all.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Looks to be more legit than your reasons against that have been proven to be false. Studies are all well and good but when the evidence of actual voting tallies shows the opposite, Im going to go with reality rather than an academic conjecturing hes not a political puppet parroting party talking points.

    Studies---theory.
    Voting records---proof.

    Which are you going to believe?
    And what is it that you think the voting records prove?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sometimes the dropoff is immediate, but it can be ameliorated by making the IDs free (at taxpayer expense), implementing an educational campaign to make voters aware of the requirements (at taxpayer expense), and by voter registration drives aimed at minimizing the impact of the laws. But once the educational campaign ends and the ramped up effort to register voters fades, the laws result in a significant decrease in voter participation. So again, a lot of wated time and money to address a non-problem.
    Yep. Once the educational campaign ends and the ramped up effort to register voters fades, only the honest ones are left. Two years sounds about right to me.
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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    On behalf of everyone else AdamT, I'd like to thank you for being our Boo Boo Doll.
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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    ...but it can be ameliorated by making the IDs free
    Which SCOTUS made pretty clear that states that impose voter ID laws need to do for those who can't afford one.


    implementing an educational campaign to make voters aware of the requirements
    What is so difficult about saying "You need a legal ID to vote?" If there wasn't an "educational program" already in place to explain the requirements to vote, that already existed before the voter ID law, then there won't be a need for one now.

    ...and by voter registration drives aimed at minimizing the impact of the laws.
    You mean that groups like ACORN (or what ever they're calling themselves since they were exposed and had to reorganize) are going to have to come up with new ways of cheating?

    Tough ****.

    But once the educational campaign ends and the ramped up effort to register voters fades, the laws result in a significant decrease in voter participation. So again, a lot of wated time and money to address a non-problem.
    So people get lazy... That's not a problem with the ID law, that's a problem with motivation... And no matter how many time you use it, that "non-problem" excuse you use to defend your opposition to voter ID's, doesn't change the reality that you are supporting voter fraud.

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    Re: Appeals Court Upholds Arizona's Voter ID Requirement

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yep. Once the educational campaign ends and the ramped up effort to register voters fades, only the honest ones are left. Two years sounds about right to me.
    So your theory is that there is still a lot of voter fraud in the first two years, even though the voter ID law is in effect? How does that make sense? Logically ... not, "it's obvious!"
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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