Thread: Senate fails to advance Buffett rule

Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und

Class envy.......

class accountability.

Originally Posted by muciti

I'd be somewhat ok with that from the standpoint that the rich would finally start paying their fair share, and the lower classes will finally start pulling their weight. However 15% is not enough in my opinion.

Just think at 15% it would be hard to go to war, eh? but yes you are right, with the current spending it's not realistic, I think the government should reign in all this spending, and implement a 15-17% tax rate. The savings of disbanding most of the IRS alone may be worth it.

Originally Posted by Porchev

This seems to be a good time to share my favorite JFK quote:

"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."
-- John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, president's news conference

The Libby/Demos of today are not Kennedy Democrats.

Originally Posted by muciti

class accountability.

I make more money, therefore I should pay more in percentage than TNE simply due to my success? is class envy.

Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und

Class envy.......

So says the one that wouldn't be affected by a tax increase, yet wants the lower and middle to pay even more taxes.

Pardon me if I throw your term in the trash where your comments go.

Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und

I make more money, therefore I should pay more in percentage than TNE simply due to my success? is class envy.

No, you are afforded more opportunities because of your status. That's fact.


Your god is money.

Originally Posted by TheNextEra

So says the one that wouldn't be affected by a tax increase, yet wants the lower and middle to pay even more taxes.

Pardon me if I throw your term in the trash where your comments go.

Middle class pays 25-58% poor pay 15% unless they make less than 8 grand..... I want everyone to pay a 15% tax rate, that's it. that would be..... wait for it.... LESS FAIL. You shouldn't post out of ignorance, it's embarrassing bro.

Originally Posted by TheNextEra

No, you are afforded more opportunities because of your status. That's fact.

True, but I earned them, you didn't.

Your god is money.

Not at all, my god is success.... if I had to start over again, I could, because I worship at the alter of success, not at the alter of class envy....

Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und

Middle class pays 25-58% poor pay 15% unless they make less than 8 grand..... I want everyone to pay a 15% tax rate, that's it. that would be..... wait for it.... LESS FAIL. You shouldn't post out of ignorance, it's embarrassing bro.

Just a page back or two you were saying it would be unfair for everyone to pay 15% because you would pay more.

Also the 25-58, or the 15 or any of those numbers are total horse ****. Very few people actually pay what they should pay in taxes. There are millions of ways around them. Dont keep lying to yourself.

Originally Posted by muciti

Just a page back or two you were saying it would be unfair for everyone to pay 15% because you would pay more.

I really think you are confused...... I never said this, I want this, I am happy to pay 15% on my rich mans salary and happy for TNE to pay 15% on his poor mans salary, yes I would pay more, but that's fair. 15% across the board...

Also the 25-58, or the 15 or any of those numbers are total horse ****. Very few people actually pay what they should pay in taxes. There are millions of ways around them. Dont keep lying to yourself.

As I said, get rid of all deductions ALL loopholes and charge 15%.... TNE was claiming I wanted folks to pay more, I countered proving I want them to pay less. He failed.