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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I would say that's unproven. Romney claims that it's true but he hasn't provided a shred of evidence to back it up.
    it has been published on the internet, just like Obama's birth certificate....all you gotta do is look for it...
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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    hm... because it's alternate-scenario generation in the past tense... there's really not a way to "prove" it. Maybe Superman could have saved every company and doubled the workforce while also doubling everyone's pay and inventing the better mousetrap. The "fired v hired" measure is also faulty - sometimes companies need to get rid of unproductive venues in order to survive. The issue there is not whether or not the venue can make it, it's whether or not the company can.

    Claiming that every firing is somehow evil or malignant is like lumping the surgeon with the serial murderer because both cut off limbs. Romney tended to save the companies (and with them, the jobs) that could be saved, and gave them a better fighting chance than they otherwise would have had.

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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Umm, BS.


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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    That's true!

    I don't think, though, that her blurt was an opinion she didn't hold--she was just caught, as they used to say on "Candid Camera," in the act of being herself. (I'm a blurter too. ) Has to hurt how quickly her comrades-at-arms rushed to distance themselves.
    Me too.

    It's a disease, really.

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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Why do we care that George Romney had a maid, cook and laundress (I've never heard that term before)?
    You've never heard the term laundress before? Really?

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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Ann Romney disagrees with that?
    No, it's an easy thing to agree with when you're worth hundreds of millions of dollars and, through no efforts of your own, have every financial need taken care of for the rest of your life.

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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    It wasn't just any comment Rosen made. She spew liberal vitriol that express the feelings of the left, who by the way are the real culprits of instigating "the war on women."

    Obama is also to blame for perpetuating the war. Now he can take the heat for it.
    Spewing liberal vitriol? Anybody who classifies what Rosen said as vitriol needs access to a Webster's dictionary. You want examples of vitriol, listen to right wing sewer radio any day, every day.

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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    it has been published on the internet, just like Obama's birth certificate....all you gotta do is look for it...
    I don't think so. The articles I've seen generally say that Romney has not supported his jobs claims and there's probably no way he could. So Did Romney Create 100,000 Jobs, Or Not? - Forbes

    But we do know for a fact that he had one of the worst job creation records in the country when he served as governor (47th out of 50).
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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I think this whole situation is sad in another way. I think it demonstrates the degree to which the concept that stay-at-home moms don't work hard is engrained in our society. Even people who clearly support women's rights have that old instinctual reaction "what could she possibly know about [business/the economy/employment/etc.]?"

    Both sides are to blame for this. Feminist liberals for stigmatizing stay-at-home moms as having no ambition, and misogynist conservatives for their condescension regarding the abilities of women in general.
    It depends on how you interpret her comment. I think she was saying that Ann Romney was always rich (never worked a day in her life), which the subsequent sentence substantiates, rather than the stay-at-home VS working-mum that's been pushed - most mums now a day work and look after their family, for those who don't, budgeting and skimping is still a fact of life.

    Ann Romney seems like a nice person, but I doubt she understands the worries that plague a lot of women about money, given her station in life.
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Ann Romney's critic, Hilary Rosen, taking a TV time out

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Ann Romney has led a pretty tough life wealth aside and her trials and tribulations have made her realize how transient and superficial wealth is. I have heard several interviews with the woman and she seems to have a really good head on her shoulders.
    You're not helping her here, when someone has been rich their whole life and never had to worry about how to pay for those "trails and tribulation", it's easy to say "how transient and superficial wealth is". For someone going bankrupt after falling ill, money is a wonderful thing.
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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