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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    And who is this Biden character? I think I remember hearing his name around 2007, but I haven't heard his name in years.
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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    The Democratic party is waging a war on stupid women trying to frighten them into voting for Obama.
    Welcome to politics. Where have you been for the past couple of centuries?

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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    Well, this woman ain't falling for it.


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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Well, this woman ain't falling for it.
    Dammit.
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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Well, this woman ain't falling for it.
    It's probably not directed at you...

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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It's probably not directed at you...
    Ain't I a woman?


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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    But see, that's just it. Abortion legislation has ebbed and flowed since before Roe v. Wade and will continue to do so as long as the constitutional justification for abortion creates such a large level of ambiguity. Until an agreement can be reached upon when the baby is equal in rights to the mother, there will always be those pushing for less or more in terms of abortion.
    That's true.

    As for birth control, there has been absolutely no attack. There was a debate on whether or not certain groups could be mandated to pay so that their employees could receive it for free via insurance. This was about new legislation created through Obama care that decided that women are, for whatever reason, entitled to free birth control. Nothing about that debate would have restricted existing access for any woman, nor would it have disallowed any group of women the ability to seek out birth control.
    That's debatable and I would argue the opposite. Attacks on Planned Parenthood, birth control mandates because it's "immoral" and comments like these:

    ďOne of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is, I think, the dangers of contraception in this country. . . . Many of the Christian faith have said, well, thatís okay, contraception is okay. Itís not okay. Itís a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.Ē

    Rick Santorum: ‘The idea I’m coming after your birth control is absurd’ - The Washington Post - The Washington Post
    come from the right. I perceive that as an attack. A lot of other people do too. If you don't, I'm not going to try to convince you.

    As I said, the fear tatic spin nonsense has obviously worked, because people have made gross assumptions about the reality of the situation and warped debates into justification for accusations against the GOP for trying to do any number of things regarding women and reproduction. The facts don't hold up to the exaggerated fear-mongering information being force fed to us by the media, but that hasn't stopped peope from catching a case of hysteria from the news media and childish law makers who play on the hype to exacerbate the issue.
    Of course the facts don't hold up to exaggerated fear mongering. Fear mongering is the hyperbolic political strategy that surrounds the facts. Nonetheless, when most people hear the "other side", they hear plans for a country they don't want to have, whether or not those plans are practical or not. Consequently, when many pro-choice women hear Republicans being fiercely pro-life, they become scared that their ability to get an abortion among other things will be taken away. It's a real fear that exists and Biden is pandering to the fearful. I don't think it has anything to do with assuming women are stupid - just that a great deal of them are afraid of losing certain rights/privileges.

    My hope is that one day the American people will rise above the spoon-fed bullcrap and flat out demand that our leaders cut the crap and try an honest approach to legislation, campaigning, and debate. Given the country's current trajectory, however, I fully expect us to sink further into Idiocracy before my dream is ever realized.
    I agree. I would like a more intellectual debate surrounding elections where emotions were pretty much irrelevant and we only debated policies and the evidence that supports them. Our country would be a lot better off.

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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Ain't I a woman?
    It's likely directed at women who already agree with him whom he's trying to mobilize to vote, not just women in general.

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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    That's true.


    That's debatable and I would argue the opposite. Attacks on Planned Parenthood, birth control mandates because it's "immoral" and comments like these:


    come from the right. I perceive that as an attack. A lot of other people do too. If you don't, I'm not going to try to convince you.


    Of course the facts don't hold up to exaggerated fear mongering. Fear mongering is the hyperbolic political strategy that surrounds the facts. Nonetheless, when most people hear the "other side", they hear plans for a country they don't want to have, whether or not those plans are practical or not. Consequently, when many pro-choice women hear Republicans being fiercely pro-life, they become scared that their ability to get an abortion among other things will be taken away. It's a real fear that exists and Biden is pandering to the fearful. I don't think it has anything to do with assuming women are stupid - just that a great deal of them are afraid of losing certain rights/privileges.


    I agree. I would like a more intellectual debate surrounding elections where emotions were pretty much irrelevant and we only debated policies and the evidence that supports them. Our country would be a lot better off.
    A man who never had a legitimate chance at the presidency making a radical comment about birth control does not constitute a legitimate attack against the accessibility of birth control.
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    Re: Biden: 'War on Women' is Real, Will Intensify

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    It is about all they have left. Showing any agreement with the other part on any issue is a sign of weakness.
    Apparently. There was a time when they were well more willing to compromise
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