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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Swap out "gay" with "Christian" and tell me if you still think the employee is in the wrong. (assume for the sake of argument that he was fired because of this information and not the missed work)
    I am not getting into this nonsense. I have a stake in whether this man was "fired" for the days of absence or there was a "hostile environment" which compelled him to leave.

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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Does that include straight couples? If so, that would mean you or your co-worker should not mention nor talk about a girldriend or wife or let it be known you have one.

    Sorry, but that is ridiculous.

    If this person was being harrassed for liking that page, and I have doubts because I haven't seen all the sides yet, this boss is one giant A-Hole and should be fired for the harrassment.

    I have seen stories about bosses harrassing gays end up the boss was really harrassing the person and I have seen them end up the employee is just an idiot playing the gay card. It works both ways, but either way a person should not have to keep things so private just because they are gay whereas people that are straight don't have to.

    I am talking about whether he was compelled to leave due to a "hostile environment" or he was "fired" for the days he was absent.

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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Nope I said sexual views.

    In that case, is there some additional evidence you've accessed that was not mentioned in the (brief, superficial) article?!?

    I ask because the article linked in the OP contains absolutely no mention of the plaintiff's sexual views.

    Hell, the article doesn't mention ANYONE's sexual views. The alleged bigoted emails and harassment on the part of the employer, if they occurred, aren't sexual views either; they would be views about gay PEOPLE.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by cmakaioz View Post
    In that case, is there some additional evidence you've accessed that was not mentioned in the (brief, superficial) article?!?

    I ask because the article linked in the OP contains absolutely no mention of the plaintiff's sexual views.

    Hell, the article doesn't mention ANYONE's sexual views. The alleged bigoted emails and harassment on the part of the employer, if they occurred, aren't sexual views either; they would be views about gay PEOPLE.
    I was speaking generally. Like I said I am not interested in nonsense.

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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    While this is true, he also claims that the harassment and negative evaluations began way before he missed those 37 days.
    Don't you think it's possible that his performance went down? Hell I "like" quite a few things on facebook. At least one or two a week. If my performance reviews go south does it really make sense to assume its because of something I "liked"? I think its equally if not more possible that this guy's performance was slipping, his boss started getting on him about it and he (like so many people today) started looking for something else to blame and came up with his own sexuality.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Don't you think it's possible that his performance went down? Hell I "like" quite a few things on facebook. At least one or two a week. If my performance reviews go south does it really make sense to assume its because of something I "liked"? I think its equally if not more possible that this guy's performance was slipping, his boss started getting on him about it and he (like so many people today) started looking for something else to blame and came up with his own sexuality.
    Sure, I'm open to all possibilities. But that doesn't explain what he claims were his boss's derogatory comments about his orientation.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Sure, I'm open to all possibilities. But that doesn't explain what he claims were his boss's derogatory comments about his orientation.
    I agree. But it's just a claim. I am not saying the guy wasn't discriminated against, but you can't just start firing people, and giving people money or anything just because they claim something. Emails are very easily tracked.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I agree. But it's just a claim. I am not saying the guy wasn't discriminated against, but you can't just start firing people, and giving people money or anything just because they claim something. Emails are very easily tracked.
    I agree. If he has a case, by all means he should release the e-mails.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    In the article, I only see the part where "when his boss found out he was gay..." So exactly "how" did the boss find this out? Was it through facebook? This isn't specifically stated. If he shared his login name with his boss, that's already a bad move. His fault. If the boss snooped on his facebook without permission, that's a definite privacy violation. At work, people should protect themselves by keeping their facebook info private. Or better yet, not use work time to fiddle around in facebook where someone might see.

    But man, 37 days missed at work? I'm surprised he kept his job as long as he did! The employer will lean on this detail heavily, and I think that alone might derail this guy's case.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    This is oh-so wrong on so many levels. We've got an employer snooping via Facebook into an employees personal life mining details that have nothing to do with job performance. We've got a job lost due to homophobia. We've got an employee with no first amendment right to even "like" a pro gay organization.

    I'm this close to just deleting my Facebook account. I have my privacy options set high, but I suspect I could be hacked and penalized for some of my views. Employers are snooping so much that it's bringing down the value of a Facebook account.


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    Life Inc. - Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired
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