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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Employers are snooping and THAT is bringing down the value of a facebook account? Say what?

    I was raised without hte internet - when we first got online as a family our rule was that we were not allowed to post any self-revealing information.

    If people just followed this then everyone would be fine - be annonymous online and you'll be fine. But people want to blend online with real life so much that it's just silly - and that has never been a good idea.
    But that is inevitable. Also it doesn't excuse the bosses behavior if it is true.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I wouldn't know - I don't do any of that stuff and I think it undermines the 'seriousness' of this issue that any of them do (employer and employee alike)

    Your employer shouldn't know who you are online - period - and if they find out from you then that's *your own fault* for not following the basic rules of internet safety.
    On the other hand, if they find out you play World of Warcraft and fire you for it, you are morally obligated to sue the **** out of them.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    This is oh-so wrong on so many levels. We've got an employer snooping via Facebook into an employees personal life mining details that have nothing to do with job performance. We've got a job lost due to homophobia. We've got an employee with no first amendment right to even "like" a pro gay organization.

    I'm this close to just deleting my Facebook account. I have my privacy options set high, but I suspect I could be hacked and penalized for some of my views. Employers are snooping so much that it's bringing down the value of a Facebook account.


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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    I'd suggest the Facebook aspect is a media-fed distraction (probably wouldn't have made the news without it). How the manager discovered his sexuality is irrelevant. The only question is whether he was mistreated and/or sacked because of discrimination or not.

    There's a perfectly good argument for not publishing lots of personal details in any format but there is no justification for mistreatment if they chose not to (or their information leaks out in some other manner). There should certainly be no expectation for anyone to keep things like their sexuality secret, on-line or off-line.
    I am not suggesting that there is any measure of propriety in firing someone over any view, let alone a sexual one. It is simply good policy to keep one's sexual views private lest they become fodder for discussion in the office. A very uncomfortable situation, at best. It may lead to a "hostile work environment".

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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I am not suggesting that there is any measure of propriety in firing someone over any view, let alone a sexual one. It is simply good policy to keep one's sexual views private lest they become fodder for discussion in the office. A very uncomfortable situation, at best. It may lead to a "hostile work environment".
    No, it should be up to the people who have a problem with it to shut their mouths, and realize that they are working, and not cause a problem. It is not up to gay people to hide who they are because someone may be uncomfortable with it.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Swap out "gay" with "Christian" and tell me if you still think the employee is in the wrong. (assume for the sake of argument that he was fired because of this information and not the missed work)
    Cant base lawsuits on assumption. I doubt this lawsuit goes very far. Either the guy produces the email and they settle it quietly because his employer knows they are screwed, or he doesnt produce and he doesnt have a case.
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Cant base lawsuits on assumption. I doubt this lawsuit goes very far. Either the guy produces the email and they settle it quietly because his employer knows they are screwed, or he doesnt produce and he doesnt have a case.
    Why is it whenever any one predicts a legal case here, they far more often than not end up being wrong? Have you read the filings in the case? If not then how the hell are you able to make anything like an accurate prediction?
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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    If this guy was indeed fired for liking that page, he does indeed have a case and I fully support him. However, I will say that as a general rule; if people don't want their personal lives looked into, they shouldn't post them on the internet. I realize that we all have a right to privacy, but social networking has led to this kind of activity. Don't be surprised if people have information about you that you'd rather keep private if you post them so carelessly online.

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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    It is simply good policy to keep one's sexual views private lest they become fodder for discussion in the office. A very uncomfortable situation, at best. It may lead to a "hostile work environment".
    What do you mean by "sexual views"? Supporting a "Two Dads" group isn't a sexual view, it's a socio-political one. Being homosexual isn't a view at all.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the implication here seems to that homosexuals should keep their lives in the dark from everyone else which strikes me as a dangerous concept. It implies there is something fundamentally wrong with it and will only serve to make it worse should it be discovered (or wrongly assumed about someone else).

    It's certainly true that in some social environments (including the work place), all sorts of characteristics, opinions of actions can be a source of conflict but it's impossible to keep all such things private. An individual can choose to keep aspects of their life private if they wish but there shouldn't be any expectation to do so and any bullying or mistreatment as a result should be stamped on promptly and firmly.

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    Re: Gay worker claims Facebook 'like' got him fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    It is simply good policy to keep one's sexual views private lest they become fodder for discussion in the office. A very uncomfortable situation, at best. It may lead to a "hostile work environment".
    Does that include straight couples? If so, that would mean you or your co-worker should not mention nor talk about a girldriend or wife or let it be known you have one.

    Sorry, but that is ridiculous.

    If this person was being harrassed for liking that page, and I have doubts because I haven't seen all the sides yet, this boss is one giant A-Hole and should be fired for the harrassment.

    I have seen stories about bosses harrassing gays end up the boss was really harrassing the person and I have seen them end up the employee is just an idiot playing the gay card. It works both ways, but either way a person should not have to keep things so private just because they are gay whereas people that are straight don't have to.

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