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Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

99percenter said:
She hasn't worked a day in her life. She like her millionaire husband get millions of dollars for sitting there ass at home. She doesn't know what its like to work for minimum wage or get a pink slip. She doesn't know what its like to live paycheck to paycheck. I wonder why hillary rosens comment where so controversial. She was 100% correct.
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I get quite a bit for staying home....I am retired.
and somehow I think I earned it.....for a lot of years I went to work so I could have a retirement.
For some of those years, my wife stayed home with the kids. She worked at home so I could work at a job. She shared the total work load, just didn't draw a pay check for those years. When the youngest started school, she got a job. I retired a few years ahead of her, so for those years she was the wage earner.

So Ann Romney's path was a little different, perhaps even easier somehow.....
Would any of us turn it down?
 
Jryan said:
I should have said I think that they have the RIGHT to these things.
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They do have the right to those things unless they're incarcerated or have otherwise broken the law.
 
Rapunzel52 said:
You can send a check and tell them what to apply it to. If it's for social justice, I'm sure you could find someplace to apply it to to suit your needs.
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Why would I send a random check to the government? If you're interested in that, do it yourself.
 
Josie said:
A momentary lapse in judgment is their own fault.
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How can that be? A lapse in judgement is a subconscious decision in which people have no control over.


Submitting to peer pressure is also a choice. I chose not to. Are you telling me that I'm some sort of magnificent, fictional creature because I chose to not listen to my friends?
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You are using hindsight to look at the problem. If you, when you were in a situation of peer pressure, decided not to fall into peer pressure because you knew that peer pressure was the reason that you would make that choice then you are a lucky individual because most don't see that peer pressure in the moment.

If only we had hindsight instead of forsight.

It seems as though we agree that we should be helping the mentally and physically handicapped, yes.
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But not the career criminals? Do you honestly think that when they are committing a crime they are obsessing over how wrong the thing that they are doing actually is?

Josie said:
And they do. ??
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I will clarify again; I think they should have the right to the aforementioned, I also would like to add medical attention to that list, even if they can't afford it.
 
Jryan said:
Yes, well unless the person is unable to drive a car, people should have these things, and you mentioned the car so I'll start there. People, in this day and age, need a car to get to and from work, so therefore it has become a basic need.
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Eh, public transport works fine for me.
 
Arbo said:
Can you define, specifically what 'enough' is? I ask because I see this silly belief over and over, and never any details.
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I think 'enough' is 90%, when over a certain income.

I am not religious, but isn't the old saying from the bible something along the lines of teach them to fish? Handouts do not teach them to fish.
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I can't speak for every situation here so don't take this subjectively, but the people that are on handouts have legitimate reasons for being on them. That is a completely different argument though.
 
UtahBill said:
a right to a car? entertainment? how young are you?
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I've clarified this a little further, a right to transportation to and from a job/grocery store. Entertainment can even be in the form of a book... Idle hands my friend, Idle hands...
 
Josie said:
They do have the right to those things unless they're incarcerated or have otherwise broken the law.
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Right, even prisoners are treated better than some law abiding citizens :\.
 
Jryan said:
Yeah, I'm fine with that too :). Just access to a way to get to and from a job.

(BTW, good point)
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if they don't have a job, they don't need a car....
Our kids didn't have their own car until they were juniors, in college. Then we gave them each a used car. When they graduated college, we gave them $5K so they could trade in their cars, that I chose, and get what they wanted.
No, we weren't rich....just financially conservative.
 
Jryan said:
I've clarified this a little further, a right to transportation to and from a job/grocery store. Entertainment can even be in the form of a book... Idle hands my friend, Idle hands...
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public library.....public transport.......
 
UtahBill said:
if they don't have a job, they don't need a car....
Our kids didn't have their own car until they were juniors, in college. Then we gave them each a used car. When they graduated college, we gave them $5K so they could trade in their cars, that I chose, and get what they wanted.
No, we weren't rich....just financially conservative.
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How is someone without transportation supposed to go to the store and get food then?
 
Jryan said:
I think 'enough' is 90%, when over a certain income.
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Do you hear that sound? It's the sound of millions of jobs going down the drain.
 
Jryan said:
How is someone without transportation supposed to go to the store and get food then?
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Get a frickin' job and buy a car. Jeez. You make it sound like everyone on earth are idiotic morons who can't fend for themselves.
 
UtahBill said:
public library.....public transport.......
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Right, and so then the motivation to get a higher paying job would be to be able to get a TV, a new car (not used or using public transportation), a nice house to raise the kids in, etc etc. I guess though, at a certain point who needs more than the aforementioned?

PS Now it just seems silly that we had a debate over this lol
 
99percenter said:
She hasn't worked a day in her life. She like her millionaire husband get millions of dollars for sitting there ass at home. She doesn't know what its like to work for minimum wage or get a pink slip. She doesn't know what its like to live paycheck to paycheck. I wonder why hillary rosens comment where so controversial. She was 100% correct.
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99percenter said:
He has paid his fair share. Flipper hasnt. He pays 13.9 % of his income in taxes. I paid 24% of my income. If only i made mitt romney money.
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The more I read from the left, the more I honestly think they just simply are not based in ANY sort of reality. People like the above. Assumptions and obvious lack of understanding of different types of 'income' and how taxation on them works.

ThePlayDrive said:
Sending a check doesn't solve the problem that increasing taxes seeks to solve. This is a common response to the argument that taxes should increased on the wealthy that is based on a poor understanding of the argument.
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Then just admit the point is to soak the 'rich', because you feel they have 'too much'.


Jryan said:
I should have said I think that they have the RIGHT to these things.
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Jryan said:
I think 'enough' is 90%, when over a certain income.
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See, a 'RIGHT' to a car, a 'RIGHT' to a house. No wonder we are so freaking messed up. The whole point of personal responsibility and earning your keep is so lost on so many people.

So you want to let 'rich' people keep a whole 10% of their efforts? How freaking generous of you. How do you justify taking so much from them? And how does that provide ANY incentive for people to excel in life?
 
Jryan said:
How is someone without transportation supposed to go to the store and get food then?
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Walk, bike, get a ride from someone. Or in your case, ride your Hot Wheels...LOL
 
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Rapunzel52 said:
Walk, bike, get a ride from someone.
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Walk, bike only work if you aren't 20 miles from a store...
(Although you will argue that they should move but how are they supposed to move if they don't have transportation or funding for that project)
Getting a ride from someone only lasts as long as their patience.
 
Jryan said:
Right, all they have to do is go knock on their neighbors door and ask for a job, right?
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Oh my, let me guess, it is the job of everyone else to seek out these people and give them a job right? Heaven forbid anyone put forth effort for their own success in life.
 
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