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Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

Yeah you are right, MIchelle is far more realistic-a woman who got into Princeton and Harvard due almost solely from her race and then got a 200K salary increase because her Husband slimed his way to a senate seat.

Is that right? You mean she didn't get into Princeton because Daddy and Mummy went there? Not really. Her dad worked at the water plant and her mom was a secretary. In highschool, "she was on the honor roll for four years, took advanced placement classes, was a member of the National Honor Society and served as student council treasurer. Obama graduated in 1981 as the salutatorian of her class [hint: that means she graduated second in her class]." She graduated cum laude from Princeton, which is probably good enough to get into Harvard Law, given her other activities, whether or not she was black.

Now let's see, Ann's father was wealthy businessman and he sent her to private schools. She graduated from highschool, apparently without honors, and then from BYU, apparently without honors.

Hmm, hard to decide which is the more impressive woman.... :lol:
 
ANYWAY, I'm trying to think of a FLOTUS that I relate to and I suppose that would be Laura Bush since she was a teacher (wasn't she?). I can't think of anything that Michelle Obama and I have in common other than a love of having nice biceps, I guess.

A teacher or librarian. Can't remember really.

I don't understand judging potential first ladies when deciding who to vote for anyway. They generally get to the white house, pick and issue, and single task that issue while their husband is in office.

I don't know what amount of input they have in their husbands job. I'm sure some stay out of it and some have loads of opinions, but I don't know how much that matters or plays into things.
 
the point is it was funny watching someone with a back ground like Rosen try to argue that Ann Romney cannot identify with most women.

Ahh... I don't know much about Rosen.
 
Ahh... I don't know much about Rosen.

She drew a great deal of animosity during her tenure heading the RIAA. Though that goes for all of the heads of the RIAA.
 
Rather than read over 350 posts...can some one explain why I should care whether Ann Romney has worked or not?
 
Is that right? You mean she didn't get into Princeton because Daddy and Mummy went there? Not really. Her dad worked at the water plant and her mom was a secretary. In highschool, "she was on the honor roll for four years, took advanced placement classes, was a member of the National Honor Society and served as student council treasurer. Obama graduated in 1981 as the salutatorian of her class [hint: that means she graduated second in her class]." She graduated cum laude from Princeton, which is probably good enough to get into Harvard Law, given her other activities, whether or not she was black.

Now let's see, Ann's father was wealthy businessman and he sent her to private schools. She graduated from highschool, apparently without honors, and then from BYU, apparently without honors.

Hmm, hard to decide which is the more impressive woman.... :lol:

NOt a single white male at yale got into harvard law with anything under MAGNA when I was there

the report you got about Michelle seems to contradict her own claims that her teachers told her she really didn't have the grades to go to Princeton and she attributed her acceptance due to her brother going there before her

and far more valedictorians get turned down at princeton than accepted.

here is some interesting stuff

Articles: Early Obama Letter Confirms Inability to Write

from an article from the LA Times

At every step of her career, race has been central to her own identification and upward mobility. Judging from the quality of thinking and writing exhibited in her Princeton thesis, Michelle would not likely have been admitted to Princeton (and later Harvard Law) had she been white. And of course affirmative action opened up jobs, first in a prestigious law firm and later as the vice president of community affairs at the University of Chicago medical center-earning $300,000 a year. She made it her first task at the hospital to steer more contracts to minority contractors. “She revised the contracting system, sending so much business to firms owned by women and other minorities that the hospital won awards,” the Times says.

she was a disaster at Sidley Austin btw
 
I'm going to say, however, the affirmative action and lesbian comments and insinuations are out of line.
 
She drew a great deal of animosity during her tenure heading the RIAA. Though that goes for all of the heads of the RIAA.

All I know about her is that she caused a Twitterstorm the other night. :)
 
I'm going to say, however, the affirmative action and lesbian comments and insinuations are out of line.


why? the issue is who people identify with. I think a woman Mrs Romney is more identifiable for most REPUBLICAN women than Rosen or Obama. On the other hand, those two are probably closer to many dem women than Mrs Romney is
 
Not really - all of her kids are grown: why isn't she employed now? Is it considered a sin in their eyes to find employment when you're a woman?

I think it actually brings up some significant questions - our government is suppose to foster equality and freedom and further the belief that women have a right to work and should find employment as it suits their needs in their life. Does Romney believe that women have a right to work or are we going to see hints of male-favoritism as we did during the Great Depression if the government tries to step in to help with employment issues and exludes women in the process if he's in office?

I don't think it's wrong to be a stay at home mom: I am one.

But at some point you stop being a stay at home mom - their youngets child was born in 1981, making him one year younger than me. . . she is no longer a stay at home mom for her children - that is no longer her description in life and does not account for their actual beliefs at present.

What does she do - if anything - with all these years she's had? Where does he fall in his beliefs? If we bring the President's career choices and his wife's career choices into question (yes - I was here last election: I remmeber all of that quite clearly and it wasn't all a negative issue) then why can't we question this and what it reflects on them as people of this country.

I have a serious problem with a grown capable woman who does not find employment - ever. My husband's mother is one and she's lowly in my view: living freely and welloff on the hard work of others and has done nothing to earn anything for herself. It is a questionable existance: it's wealthy laziness.


The woman has had MS since the late 90's and is a cancer survivor. Not sure the above is appropriate, seems pretty judegemental.
 
NOt a single white male at yale got into harvard law with anything under MAGNA when I was there

the report you got about Michelle seems to contradict her own claims that her teachers told her she really didn't have the grades to go to Princeton and she attributed her acceptance due to her brother going there before her

and far more valedictorians get turned down at princeton than accepted.

here is some interesting stuff

Articles: Early Obama Letter Confirms Inability to Write

from an article from the LA Times

At every step of her career, race has been central to her own identification and upward mobility. Judging from the quality of thinking and writing exhibited in her Princeton thesis, Michelle would not likely have been admitted to Princeton (and later Harvard Law) had she been white. And of course affirmative action opened up jobs, first in a prestigious law firm and later as the vice president of community affairs at the University of Chicago medical center-earning $300,000 a year. She made it her first task at the hospital to steer more contracts to minority contractors. “She revised the contracting system, sending so much business to firms owned by women and other minorities that the hospital won awards,” the Times says.

she was a disaster at Sidley Austin btw

It's amazing that you know the grades and honors of all the students you went to college with. Of course Harvard Law takes a lot of things into consideration -- not just grades. They don't even give grades anymore. Not saying that affirmative action didn't help, but we all know that affirmative action also works for rich white people.

And an American Stinker cite -- beautiful! You and Conservative are thinking alike today. :lol:

Of course the quote that you attribute to the LA Times is not from the LA Times -- that would be what we call a lie. The quote actually comes from another right wing blog site. The author is a former Reagan official and Labor Secretary under Shrub. Re: Remaking Michelle « Commentary Magazine

So a big wow for one of the most dishonest posts I've read in some time! :thumbs:
 
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It's amazing that you know the grades and honors of all the students you went to college with. Of course Harvard Law takes a lot of things into consideration -- not just grades. They don't even give grades anymore. Not saying that affirmative action didn't help, but we all know that affirmative action also works for rich white people.

And an American Stinker cite -- beautiful! You and Conservative are thinking alike today. :lol:

Of course the quote that you attribute to the LA Times is not from the LA Times -- that would be what we call a lie. The quote actually comes from another right wing blog site. The author is a former Reagan official and Labor Secretary under Shrub. Re: Remaking Michelle « Commentary Magazine

So a big wow for one of the most dishonest posts I've read in some time! :thumbs:

You're calling the poster a "liar" because of an error in the citation?? Still haven't learned your lesson yet? Is it necessary to bring it to your attention again, as well as that of other posters, so they can judge just what sort of person you are?
 
You're calling the poster a "liar" because of an error in the citation?? Still haven't learned your lesson yet? Is it necessary to bring it to your attention again, as well as that of other posters, so they can judge just what sort of person you are?

You think he just mistakenly copied and pasted the quote from a right wing blog and attributed it to the LA times without providing a link? :lol:

BTW, if you intend to "bring attention" you should probably use complete sentences to avoid confusion.
 
You think he just mistakenly copied and pasted the quote from a right wing blog and attributed it to the LA times without providing a link? :lol:

Yes, i believe that's what happened and I would certainly give anyone the benefit of any doubt before I called them a liar.

In fact it is you who are the liar, and we both know it.
 
Yes, i believe that's what happened and I would certainly give anyone the benefit of any doubt before I called them a liar.

In fact it is you who are the liar, and we both know it.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, as he's either a liar or a .... (self edited).

You say I'm a liar? Did you want to ... you know ... post an example? Benefit of the doubt and all that? :lol:
 
This is really a non-issue as I don't think anyone expected to hear Ann Romney tell us she worked at Sears in linens for 20 years.
If she did then everyone would think that Mitt was a jerk making her work while he had millions.

What is more accurate is that she is probably out of touch with most Americans just as he was with his response to why none of his 5 sons had ever served in the military.
 
I don't think that it is a personal issue. As I said, it's risky to just depend on one person to support you. Anything can happen.. soured marriage, cheating, divorce, death, pernup, etc. Financial security involves having my own funds and my own foot in the economy. I don't know anybody could see it any differently. I would never willingly choose to never work a day in my life and choose to be supported completely by my husband.

I also think it's kind of weird to buy somebody presents and gifts with their own money they earn, and I saw a woman's husband say it on the Real Housewives of OC once. I think he made her feel awful, but she stayed quiet cause that's her life line.

Real Housewives?
a SAHM with a working husband has work to do at home, she is entitled to some of his pay...she earns it...
 
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, as he's either a liar or a .... (self edited).

You say I'm a liar? Did you want to ... you know ... post an example? Benefit of the doubt and all that? :lol:

Sure, no problem.

Here is your lie.

Wow, you even lie about stupid **** like this?

There are two Whole Foods stores in Indiana. Whole Foods Market | WholeFoodsMarket.com

Can we see your statistics on arugula consumption by Indianans?

You lied that the poster was discussing Indiana when in fact it was Iowa.
 
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Sure, no problem.

Here is your lie.

Ooo, now that is an epic fail. It is in fact TRUE that there are two Whole Foods in Indiana.

Sadly I confused the abbreviation of Indiana with that of Iowa, which is what ICMA was talking about.
 
This is really a non-issue as I don't think anyone expected to hear Ann Romney tell us she worked at Sears in linens for 20 years.
If she did then everyone would think that Mitt was a jerk making her work while he had millions.

What is more accurate is that she is probably out of touch with most Americans just as he was with his response to why none of his 5 sons had ever served in the military.

So it seems safe to assume that the attacks on the family of the candidate will continue.

Shall we now start on the daughters of Barrack and Michelle Obama, or do the Republicans have too much class for this sort of thing?
 
I don't see it as a hateful attack. I see it as someone stating that Mrs. Romney does not really connect to what women face in the workforce who have children.

Using her MS as an excuse doesn't cut it either. There are many who have MS and work.
And the point of her working is moot anyway. The point is, she just doesn't have a clue. So since she doesn't, how will she be able to connect with those who do?

Would you all rather have someone so rich they don't know what its like in every day life to most of us.....or those who know what it's like and can therefore relate??

but none of this is anything you know on your own....you don't know her personally, you are just taking sides based on your own prejudices....
 
Ooo, now that is an epic fail. It is in fact TRUE that there are two Whole Foods in Indiana.

Sadly I confused the abbreviation of Indiana with that of Iowa, which is what ICMA was talking about.

And despite it being your error all the way you called the other poster a "liar"in the process, just as you did here. You were "confused" in that instance but other posters are "liars".

I guess it doesn't matter in the long term. You are who you are.
 
Sigh. Ok. Yeah. I guess. Wanna nitpick that too? Go ahead.

Everyone choose who they want to vote for due to how they relate to that person. I am not different. Choosing between Ann and Michelle..it would be Michelle.

I like both of them.....they are class acts. Too bad their husbands don't always measure up....
 
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